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problems with 2003 envoy xl since i bought it 2 years ago
by 03gmcenvoyxl
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Feb 19, 2007 (11:29 am)
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I bought a 2003 gmc envoy xl that had about 44,000 miles, since day 1. I have had problems with the truck. When I bought it from D'arcy motors in joliet, they were trying to pull my chain. I bought the truck knowing that they were going to have to put a new transmission in the truck,because it slipped going from 2nd to 3rd gear, and the dealer said that the truck has to adjust to my driving technique. BS. So i had the truck for 2 weeks and i was going to go out of town when the truck started to slip really bad so I took it in to get the transmission replaced.( brand new) Also I have been having problems with my gas gauge giving me faulty readings, so it has been in the dealer for that about 5 times now and they replace the instrument cluster , fuel pump, fuel pressure sending unit and a few sensors, and it is still not working right, so another fun trip to the dealer. It seems like the truck is at the dealer more than it is on the road. I am currently experiencing a thumping noise in the front end and the dealer is saying it is the stabilizer links which of course are not under the extended warranty. ($350) Replacement of the radio because of a short in the unit. Replaced transmission shift indicator sensor , didn't tell me what gear i was in and cruise control did not work.
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- #110 of 145
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Re: 2005 Envoy Electrical Problem [dburch16]
by wildernm
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Mar 16, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: dburch16 (Jan 30, 2007 12:11 pm)
When I first added my information on this site, I didn't have any loss of power to the vehicle. I've taken my Envoy to the dealership 6 times in the last three months. Now I have a message on the DIC stating that my "Battery Not Charging". The first time this message appeared, I didn't lose power. The second time, I lost power. The dealership said that the ECM (Engine Control Module) is bad and needs to be replaced. Have you been able to have your electrical issues resolved? Has anyone else experienced this problem.
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- #111 of 145
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Re: 2005 Envoy Electrical Problem
by slaplante
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Aug 06, 2007 (6:59 pm)
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Replying to: wildernm (Mar 16, 2007 1:32 pm)
I own a 06 Envoy and have had extreme electrical problems with it. It started with the truck stalling at low speeds. Now it has been stuck in my garage for over a week, not starting. Found the starter was fried and replaced it. Still not starting. Discovered the fuse box under the hood was receiving 12 volts but not putting out 12 volts to the neutral safety switch and on to the starter. Now have to buy the fuse box. Called GM and was told because I was 100 miles over the 36000 mile warranty, it was my problem. I also owned a 06 trailblazer that was totally recalled by GM last winter due to the leather seats not being compatable with the passanger air bag sensor. Also own a Pontiac Grand Prix that has had electrical problems since buying. These problems run from the keyless entry not working, key not coming out of ignition, and unable to shift out of park. Have had it! Will never buy GM again.   
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- #112 of 145
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Re: 2002 GMC Envoy intermittent starting problem [ehanneman]
by slaplante
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Aug 06, 2007 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: ehanneman (Jul 17, 2006 5:18 pm)
I own a 2006 with the same problems, except now it won't start at all no matter how many times it is attempted. Our machanic says the fuse box under the hood is bad. Has 12V going in but isn't putting out 12V to the neutral safety switch which tells the starter that everything is good to go and go ahead and start the engine. the part is coming in tomorrow. Will let you know if this truly fixes the problem.
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- #113 of 145
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Re: 2002 GMC Envoy intermittent starting problem [ehanneman]
by dac312
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Aug 09, 2007 (11:15 pm)
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Replying to: ehanneman (Jul 17, 2006 5:18 pm)
I having the same problems, what did you find to be the problem?
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- #114 of 145
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Re: 2002 GMC Envoy intermittent starting problem [slaplante]
by gogrullogo
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Aug 10, 2007 (12:52 am)
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Replying to: slaplante (Aug 06, 2007 7:07 pm)
I own a 04 SUV XLT Envoy. Have had to replace the ignition/starter switch twice in the last 15000 miles. The truck would start - but as soon as you put it in gear it would stall.
Also had to replace both rear tailgate switches thatwent out at the same time.
I also feel there is something not quite right with the trans - seems to slip at times. 50,000 miles on it now.
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- #115 of 145
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Re: 2005 Envoy Electrical Problem [dburch16]
by wildernm
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Aug 10, 2007 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: dburch16 (Jan 30, 2007 12:11 pm)
After fighting with my dealership, they gave me an extended GM Protection Plan up to 84,000 or 8 years. In the meantime, they replaced the Engine Control Module and I haven't had any problems with the lights flickering or loss of voltage/power to the vehicle. But I had to get the General Manager of the dealership involved before they finally took care of the problem.
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- #116 of 145
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Re: 2005 Envoy Electrical Problem [wildernm]
by letteer
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Nov 21, 2007 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: wildernm (Jan 06, 2007 3:39 pm)
I also have an 05 XL SLT with the same flickering lghts. All I have talked the dealership into changing is the alternator which did help for a while (6 months). Mine seems to be more noticeable in colder weather. I just went back this week and they said they will try to replace the BCM (body control module) They told me that Envoy's have a PCM (power control module i think), and a BCM, but not an ECM. My question for wildernm is what did your dealership change on your Envoy, and if you don't mind doing so, could you post your dealers name (or email me) so that I can direct my dealer to them? Thanks.
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Re: 2005 Envoy Electrical Problem [letteer]
by wildernm
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Nov 21, 2007 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: letteer (Nov 21, 2007 4:44 am)
I would recommend you contact James Koster (Quality) at 505-348-1152. Because my vehicle was in the shop so many times, we nicknamed it "Jinx". As soon as you tell him that, he'll know exactly what you're talking about. I've also noticed that I experienced more problems with the electrical system when the temperatures were significantly colder. In the meantime, here's what they've replaced on my vehicle....air pump motor, air pump assembly, secondary air injection check value solenoid, batteries, air pump hose assembly, sensor for air system, alternators, Engine Control Module (ECM), BCM, PCM, etc. There was a reprogramming for the emissions system and after that was installed, I didn't have problems with the head lights flickering; however, my check engine light kept coming on. My dealership had a very hard time getting GM to respond to them and GM is refusing to allow the dealership to remove the software upgrade since it seems to have fixed the flickering headlights even though the check engine comes on now. The engine light is connected with the emissions system and the light is more of an annoyance than a real problem with driving the vehicle (so the dealership tells me). The reason the light kept coming on was become of the accumulation of fumes in the catalytic convertor and after the emissions system kicks in three times and the fumes can't be cleared, the check engine light comes on. The dealership is able to clear the fault code in a couple of minutes, but after I've started the vehicle three - four times, the check engine light would come on. Because of the problems and numerous times I've had the vehicle in the shop, GM gave me at no cost the GM Protection Plan for 4 years or 84,000. I have been so frustrated with the problems with the vehicle (in the shop 14 times in 12 months for the same problems and the engine light coming on all the time), I found an attorney to negotiate a cash settlement with GM and I've recently traded in a vehicle for a non-GM product. If you do try to file a claim yourself with GM, be prepared to be "brushed off" and ignored. The only way they responded to me was after I hired an attorney. Also, GM will probably offer the extended warranty to you so you'll be happy. This way, they won't have to pay out very much for the cash settlement since they gave you the extended warranty. You may wish to check into your state's lemon law. The one for NM is good only for the first 12 months from the purchase of the vehicle and I started experiencing problems at 16 months, so I was out of luck on using the lemon law. Good luck to you and let me know if you need additional information or have any other questions.
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- #118 of 145
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Re: 2005 Envoy Electrical Problem [wildernm]
by letteer
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Nov 22, 2007 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: wildernm (Nov 21, 2007 6:32 am)
Thank you very much for all the information. I will follow up on the dealer info. I hope it doesn't come to an attorney for me, but GM created this problem and they need to fix it, not just tell us this problem is "normal". They gave me the wait 20 sec speech and that has helped, but that alone will keep me away from GM the next time around. Thanks again.
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