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Toyota Highlander Maintenance and Repair

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Rotors by bikeman3
Jul 10, 2009 (11:23 am)
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There are a lot of low quality rotors out there, Dura International is one, the thickness isn't what OEM parts are. The OEM are much more expensive than off market stuff, Call different parts store and get prices on them. ASK what the expected liftetime is. How many times can they be trued etc . See the Detroit News auto section
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=AUTO01
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Re: Brakes! How Many Miles? [nathanbrand] by tsotsi
Jul 10, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: nathanbrand (Jul 09, 2009 12:22 pm)

The service advisor at my local Toyota dealer told me that my brake pads were completely worn out at a little over 40,000 miles and needed immediate replacement. He indicated that the rotors could probably be turned rather than replaced. I did a little research (in the manual) and discovered that the Highlander has a system to warn drivers of severely worn pads -- a probe touches the turning disc and gives an audible warning. You can safely wait for the warning tone before changing pads.
 
Since brakes are a safety issue, I am not qualified to give advice. But the following is a quote from the "Tech Correspondence" column in the July issue of Road & Track: "While full-thickness, dead smooth brake rotors provide the most fade resistance and best pedal feel, the cost of replacing good rotors with perfect rotors has never added up to us. Unless the discs are heavily scored, warped or undersize we simply replace the brake pads."
 
I found a set of original equipment pads for a little over $100. Brake grease is only a couple of dollars. I am going to just change the pads when needed. I did this on my Honda Accord and the brakes worked fine. But safety is involved . . . best to decide how important it is to save a few bucks.
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Re: Brakes! How Many Miles? [tsotsi] by herzogtum71
Jul 10, 2009 (12:46 pm)
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Replying to: tsotsi (Jul 10, 2009 12:00 pm)

2004 4-cylinder FWD -- My brakes and rotors (front and rear) were replaced in March at 63,000 miles. The dealer had told me when I had it in for service before that the brakes would likely need to be replaced with the next service. They did charge the upper end of what was mentioned in a previous post, so taking it to an independent repair shop could save some money. But I too would avoid the big chain shops that specialize in mufflers and brakes.
 
Curious thing is that I heard no sound at all when I braked, and the service rep said that the 2004 had no brake indicators. So I wouldn't expect to hear anything even though he described the wear as being basically metal on metal at that point.
 
One other point is that brakes on a vehicle with manual transmission tend to last longer than on a vehicle with an automatic. I had a 1994 Corolla station wagon that I traded in when I got the Highlander. It had a manual transmission, and I never had to have the brake pads or rotors replaced in 111,000 miles.
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Re: Brakes! How Many Miles? [tsotsi] by grahampeters
Jul 11, 2009 (1:44 am)
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Replying to: tsotsi (Jul 10, 2009 12:00 pm)

G'day
 
Brake usage is very much dependent upon usage patterns. I have 112,000km (say 70,000 miles) on my Kluger which is used in a combination of city and freeway with some on-dirt. Last service suggests pads are at 55% remaining wear and rotors not significantly worn. However, rotors do warp if wheel studs overtightened (actually noticeable after wheels rotated).
 
I tend to drive to minimize fuel usage, reading traffic ahead, coasting to lights and minimizing braking, but keeping up with traffic flow or ahead. TYpically, I find that the aggressive driver ahead has made it to just in front of me by the end of my commute, so not overly laid back.
 
Cheers
 
Graham
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Re: Radiator fans, AC and no high idle? [wwest] by worthflorida
Jul 11, 2009 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jul 09, 2009 8:14 pm)

Good point and I'll get the pressure checked. The AC does work quite good in South Florida but it could be on the teeter edge that it needs some R134a.
 
But what you are saying that since the low pressure switch cuts out the AC clutch, it also cuts out (to the computer) the idle speed control and the AC fan?
 
I've had this happen on other cars, as the low pressure switch cuts out the clutch, the low pressure side slowly build up some pressure and the clutch kicks in again and this on/off cycle continues. Usually, the idle and fans still operate as if the AC was on and working 100%.
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Re: Radiator fans, AC and no high idle? [worthflorida] by wwest
Jul 11, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: worthflorida (Jul 11, 2009 4:36 am)

If the climate control ECU "senses" that the compressor cannot be run due to low refrigerant then why would it go ahead and open the throttle further, and activate the fans, for an additional load that isn't there.
 
The blinking A/C light typically means the ECU is trying to run the compressor but the clutch or the drive belt is slipping. In that case the ECU would initially go ahead and open the throttle and turn on the fans as the expectation was that the compressor is operational.
 
Did you say the engine stalled when the A/C was switched on..??
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Re: Brakes! How Many Miles? [herzogtum71] by tsotsi
Jul 11, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: herzogtum71 (Jul 10, 2009 12:46 pm)

As far as I know, all Highlander have brake indicators (unless somebody has removed them). ". . . he described the wear as basically being metal on metal . . ." is almost word for word what the service rep in Florida told me. I guess it is part of their script. Also, the worst thing "metal on metal" would do is to damage the rotors . . . which they want to change anyway. It is easy to look through gaps in the calipers to see how much pad is left. With some wheels it might be easier with the wheel removed.
 
The economy is bad and dealers aren't making money selling new cars. Service departments are their cash cow. It certainly shouldn't hurt anything (but your pocketbook) to change the pads early, but it makes me nervous when service reps don't tell the truth. I am going to start checking everything they tell me from now on.
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Brake Pad Repalcement by ethericone
Jul 15, 2009 (8:30 am)
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My 05' Highlander has 70,000 miles and finally needs the front brake pads replaced. The dealer has bumped their repair rates recently because I suspect it is the only way they can stay in business since they are not selling too many cars. I'm considering going to Brake Check, Just Brakes, Brake Specialists, or some other brake repalcement company, but I am afraid I will get sub-standard brake pads that will squeel. Has anyone had any good experiences replacing brake pads at any aftermarket company? If so, I need your advice and wisdom. THANKS!
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Brake pad repl by bikeman3
Jul 15, 2009 (8:56 am)
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On front brakes I had dealer do them, they are better at rsurf. the rotors. Ask the other places what kind of pads they sell; go to Auto parts stores price out different pads see what the dealer sell as well. I have never had a problem with the dealer installed pads. I know the dealer charges more but they know Toyotas.
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Re: Brake Pad Repalcement [ethericone] by mikefm58
Jul 15, 2009 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: ethericone (Jul 15, 2009 8:30 am)

I know that Just Brakes are the worst of the worst, $99 for all 4 wheels advertised to get you in the door, then all kinds of add-ons, stay away from them.

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