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#3956 of 5330 Dumped Highlander
Mar 18, 2007 (6:58 am)
The Highlander is to hard and too stressful to drive. The transmission in the 2005-2007 Highlander is a big defect. Shifting problems, wrong gear for situation, hesitation, always in overdrive. I bought a 2007 Honda CRV. IT'S WONDERFUL. Its transmission not only adjusts for throttle position and speed, but also the grade of the road. Example, if you are traveling on a flat or slightly down hill road, the transmission will not just shift all the way through the gears like the obselete Highlander. The Honda will STAY in the appropriate gear, 3rd or 4th, until 5th is appropriate. IF you let off the gas on a hill, you get engine braking. Who would have thought?! The Honda is not in a rush to get to 5th and does not get stuck there like my old 2007 Highlander. Go read about it on the Honda web site. I encourage everyone I know to dump the Highlander as Toyota will do nothing about this.
#3957 of 5330 Love our Highlanders]
Mar 18, 2007 (7:57 am)
I am sorry to hear of your bad experience. I have had my 2005 Highlander V6 AWD for over two years and 35K miles and love it. Fast smooth acceleration and a quiet smooth ride and drivetrain that is as good as any I have driven, and better than most. I also have a couple coworkers and a neighbor with the same cars and I have talked to them a lot, and they have nothing but great things to say. In fact I have yet to meet anyone in real life who does not agree that the Highlander is one of the best mid sized SUVs available today.
We liked ours so much we recently got a 2007 so both my wife and I would have these wonderful, safe cars to drive. Based on Toyota's published sales data there are way over two million Toyotas on the road with this exact drivetrain, and you will be hard pressed to find enough people with complaints to total even one tenth of one percent of those cars.
I am happy you found a car that you like. We love our Highlander and would highly recommend it to anyone.
#3958 of 5330 Re: Love our Highlanders] [billran]
Mar 18, 2007 (8:59 am)
Same here. No problems in 25K miles. We still love it. Any Honda shoppers should read their boards before buying. They are far from trouble free.
#3959 of 5330 Re: Love our Highlanders] [billran] [desertguy]
Mar 18, 2007 (10:16 am)
Ditto here as well. I've got 3 Toyotas (Tundra, HL, and Tacoma) and a Honda CRV in the family, none have been perfect (but close).
#3960 of 5330 Re: Love our Highlanders] [billran]
Mar 18, 2007 (1:43 pm)
It is nice to hear that many folks love their Highlanders since I have an 07 on order. I was getting a little worried after reading all the sour grapes about the "shifting" problems. Since then I have interviewed at least 6 current Highlander owners with nothing approaching those problems either.
IMO it must be a very, very small number of vehicles having this problem since the Highlander continues to be near the top of the Consumer Reports reliability reports.
#3961 of 5330 Re: Love our Highlanders] [billran]
Mar 18, 2007 (3:13 pm)
We have two Highlanders. One for the wife(2001) and one for me (2002). Both are 2WD Limited and both have been great automobiles.
#3962 of 5330 2003 and 2005
Mar 18, 2007 (6:48 pm)
In 2003, we bought a new 2003 Highlander V6 2WD and loved it so much, in mid 2005 we added a 2005 limited V6 2WD to the family. They have both been excellent vehicles, the 3.3L V6 and the 5 speed automatic in the '05 feel more powerful than the 3.0L 4spd automatic on the '03, and the '05 also gets better fuel mileage. They have both been virtualy perfect driving vehicles, with only 1 or 2 minor warranty issues combined. Quite possibly, 2 of the best vehicles we have ever owned, and I have owned over 45 vehicles in my 55 years.
Before buying the 05, we read with great interest on these same forums, about hesitation issues that a repeated few were reporting. We test drove many, many examples of Toyota corp vehicles with this engine/trans combo, and never did experience the dreaded hestiation, so we bought it. I will say, that for a while, I half expected it to raise it's head, but.....It has been almost exactly 2 years, and about 30,000 miles of perfect performance.
When the Camry Hybrid came out in June 06, I just had to have one, and we decided it made sense to replace the "older" of the Highlanders with a more fuel efficient vehicle, so we traded the 03 HL on the 07 Camry Hybrid.
It does make more sense to have one utility vehicle, and one "economy" vehicle, (rather than 2 SUVs) altho, had it not been for the Camry Hybrid, I would probably made a new personal record for the time owned on a single vehicle with the 03... I suspect that the '05 will now take that title, as we love it, and have absolutely no reason to even consider it's replacement in the forseeable future.
To stay more or less on topic, on the '05, we change the oil at 5,000 mile intervals, rotate the tires (5) at 7,500 miles, and I just changed the air filter. Other than that, i don't think the 05 has been to the dealer for a single warranty issue...and I am VERY picky... and sensitive to sounds, rattles, hesitations, surges, vibrations, etc.
Sorry for long post.
#3963 of 5330 Re: 2003 and 2005 [jbollt]
Mar 19, 2007 (5:13 am)
Don't be sorry for the long post. Lots of encouraging stuff for us potential Highlander buyers. I keep reading about the "hesitation" issues. However, I have test driven at least half a dozen Highlanders and cannot identify this as a problem. Nor can I get that issue from any current Highlander owners in my area.
I am not saying that it doesn't exist, I can only say that it is not in my actual experience either test driving or discussing the issue with Highlander owners.
#3964 of 5330 Re: 2003 and 2005 [toyotagal]
Mar 19, 2007 (6:49 am)
Remember, people with problems tend to post on these boards. Owners with no problems don't. The vast silent majority is out here. You are making the right decision. Just test drive the actual car you are buying and don't take it off the lot until it is to your satisfaction.
#3965 of 5330 Re: Love our Highlanders] [billran]
Mar 19, 2007 (11:09 pm)
The observation that "Whingers post, happy folk keep their mouths shut" seems apt. That said, I had some minor issues with the shift points for the trasnmission in my 2005 Klugerr (Highlander). Problem was largely fixed by a Flash of the ECU to amend trasnmission shift points. However, shifting can be a bit rough as a consequence of driving patterns. The transmission control is adaptive and responds to recent driving patterns. When the problem has cropped up, I have found that very rapid acceleration / deceleration through three cycles solves any transmission shift issues.
Now having mentioned this, I responded to one poster explaining the remedy and that it was a consequence of his recent driving pattern. His immediate response was to interpret it as confirmation of his view that the vehicle was defective. Reminds me of onw mechanic who assured me that the one part he could not fix was the nut behind the wheel!