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Toyota Highlander, SUV
#3298 of 5330 Re: 05 Highlander Hesitation & Shifting Problems [frogg]
Jan 12, 2006 (11:01 am)
There is a lot of info on this topic at Edmunds. The problem has been posted by owners in many of the Toyota and Lexus forums -- it goes back as far as the 2002 models (specifically Lexus ES300 complaints at that time) and has continued on with no sure fire remedy. Toyota has issued a TSB and several updates to the TSB that are supposed to fix the problem. Some people have reported that the fix works and others have had no improvement or an initial improvement with a return to the previous condition. You will also find posts by people who have gone through arbitration and lemon law buyback processes, a few with some success.
It is not clear from your post what work specifically toyota performed -- if they have not performed the most recent TSB you may want to have that done. In most states, for lemon law buyback, you have to prove that you gave the manufacturer ample opportunity to fix the problem.
I also think it would be a good idea if you post a complaint about this at www.nhtsa.gov, particularly if you feel this problem presents a safety hazard. They are the agency that can effect a recall if the problem is significant or prevalent (after 4 years of this problem going on, I wouldn't hold my breath for a recall, but it doesn't hurt to give them your complaint).
There are some Edmunds forums actively discussing this problem. Right now, the "Transmission Problems with the Lexus ES300" "Transmission problems with Lexus ES-300 ?" # is getting the most action, but the new forum "Toyota-Lexus transaxle shift delay" <http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.efe9615 was set up specifically for discussing this problem in all of the Toyota-Lexus line.
#3299 of 5330 Re: 04 Highlander V6 steering wheel "clunk" sensation [mckeown]
Jan 12, 2006 (1:41 pm)
Just returned from picking up my 2004 HL AWD from dealership having a regular service plus checking the steering for looseness and clunking feeling. In checking it out the service tech informed me that the U-joints in the lower part of the steering column had gone bad. He said they had found this problem in some Camry's but this was the first HL with the problem. The HL has just turned 19,000 miles. Has ordered parts and will have to take back to be fixed.
#3300 of 5330 Re: Slip Indicator light and beeper getting one [bloc11]
Jan 12, 2006 (4:54 pm)
I’m also having this problem. The slip indicator light comes on and the front end begins to shake and make clunking noises when I drive over 12 mph. This happened once before, but stopped. Now it happens all the time. I just did the 15k maintenance last week. Don’t know if that’s related. Towing it to the dealer tomorrow. Will advise.
2005 Toyota Highlander AWD
#3301 of 5330 Re: 05 Highlander Hesitation & Shifting Problems [frogg]
Jan 13, 2006 (7:02 am)
I am sorry to hear about your problem. I wish you the very best luck in getting that resolved. The TSB has been reported as very successful by many people and I would highly recommend you try that route.
Also, you should be aware that the majority of the posts about this issue are by people who don't actually own one of these cars and have never personally driven one to experience the hesitation first hand. They enjoy speculating about the issue and are mostly well intentioned, but it is all based on second hand information.
And finally, there are also some posters with an obvious anti-Toyota agenda who may provide you information that is not exactly unbiased.
There are two million cars on the road with the V6 5 speed drivetrain and those who actually report a problem are a very small minority. I am sorry to hear you are one of them but there is a good chance the TSB will solve your problem.
With that in mind, I hope the TSB gives you the same good results that many have reported.
#3302 of 5330 Re: 05 Highlander Hesitation & Shifting Problems [billran]
Jan 13, 2006 (9:32 am)
The following work was performed on my HIghlander over a three month period: The computer was reset on two occasions. This seemed to help (at least the first time), but only temporary. They also replaced the valve body in the trans. The Tech says he drove the car after that "repair", and all was well. He's probably right. But it didn't last long. The service manager then asked me to try turning the overdrive off in city driving, and report whether it made any difference. It does. But he then told me he would be talking to the company, and he didn't know if they would allow him to do anything else. And they wouldn't. What seems remarkable: For the first 1000 miles, I was stunned at the handling and ease of driving in city conditions, given that it is AWD. Something electrical/mechanical has changed, and whatever it is, accounts for the problem.
#3303 of 5330 Re: 05 Highlander Hesitation & Shifting Problems [frogg]
Jan 13, 2006 (12:23 pm)
The computer reset was probably the TSB repair that Toyota is doing for the hesitation problem. You said that it improved after that, but only temporarily. Would you describe how it drives now as a "hesitation" after slowing down then trying to accelerate or more like slipping?
#3304 of 5330 05 highlander bad smell problem
Jan 13, 2006 (11:43 pm)
I have a 2005 highlander AWD with 9,500 miles on it. I live in cold WI weather and when I drive to work in the morning I get a very bad smell which comes out of the heating vents while I'm stopped at a red light. It smells like rotten eggs almost. It goes away after the 1st 10 min. of driving and is more apparent when I drive fast off the start. When I stop at a red light the rotten egg smell comes through the vents more it seems like.
The 2nd smell is when I turn on the heating vents to blow on the windshield when the windshield is all steamy for example. This isn't s rotten egg smell, but it smells more like some tyoe of chemical. Since I always drive with my 3 yr old these smells are concering me alot.
Can anyone hlp in letting me know what this could be and what I should do?
#3305 of 5330 Re: 05 highlander bad smell problem [05highlander05]
Jan 14, 2006 (7:16 am)
I had the rotten egg problem with my Sequoia. Toyota issued a TSB for the catalytic converter to correct the problem. Seems to have worked -- no more rotten egg smell for me. Check with your dealer on this. You can also find listings of TSBs on www.alldata.com and www.nhtsa.gov.
I have had no experience with teh second smell you mention.
#3306 of 5330 Re: 05 highlander bad smell problem [05highlander05]
Jan 14, 2006 (7:50 am)
Don't be too quick to jump all over Toyota on this one. Some folks don't look to deeply into these kinds of problems and end up making all kinds of accusations which aren't warranted.
Here's some additional info about this rotten egg smell.
I read recently where there's a Class Action Law Suit against Shell about a mistake they made in a huge batch of gasoline that was refined and marketed in a wide area of the northern US and in Canada. Among other things it caused a rotten egg smell from engine exhausts. It also damaged a whole bunch of emission control components in a great many instances. Might be worth a follow up. Look it up on the web. This issue has a lot more to do with fuel than it does with users. It bummed out a ton of owners and got them all steamed up against their automakers to issue TSBs and replace components, but it turns out it wasn't the automaker's fault after all.
A few years ago there was another CA Suit against Shell in Quebec Canada for the same thing. Here's a short news article on that one:
"A class action lawsuit against Shell was authorized for consumers in Québec on July 18, 2003.
From March 2001 to March 2002, Shell included an additive to its regular-grade "Bronze" gasoline that damaged the fuel supply system of many vehicles. Shell estimated that between 100,000 and 200,000 consumers bought "Bronze" gas during that period; the exact number of adversely affected vehicles remains unknown, however the number of incidents reported is highly significant. The most commonly damaged vehicles are from the Toyota, Acura, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, General Motors, Hyundai and Volvo brands.
In July 2004 the Superior Court of Quebec approved a settlement in the class action filed on behalf of consumers who purchased regular-grade Shell gasoline from early 2001 to early 2002. The settlement completed the voluntary reimbursement program undertaken earlier by Shell Canada. The closing date for claims in the Shell class action was November 5, 2004.
#3307 of 5330 Re: 04 Highlander V6 steering wheel "clunk" sensation [mckeown]
Jan 14, 2006 (9:19 am)
Thanks to all who have responded to my SOS. The loose U-joint sounds like the culprit. I'll return my HL to my dealership for visit # 2 and I'll let you all know the results.