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Toyota Highlander, SUV
#2499 of 5330 Re: Engine Sludge in Newer Highlanders? [khorn]
Mar 21, 2005 (6:28 am)
The 2003 models are not included on the sludge policy, even though it is exactly the same engine. There was some minor tweaking of the engine head and PCV system, but that was it. The major redo of the engine didn't take place until 2004, so basically, the engine in the 2003 is the same sludge monster as in the 2002. That said, it is going to be an uphill battle to get Toyota to do anything about it. It is the owners responsibility to maintain the engine and you must be able to prove that you held up your end of the warranty. During the height of the sludge problems, Toyota was allowing proof of one oil change per year to suffice as proof of reasonable maintenance, so if you can prove that much, you may want to do battle. If not, you may as well hang it up and pay to get your engine repaired. That said, I would not pay $6,000!! That sounds like highway robbery. I read of people getting their engines cleaned of sludge for prices more in the $3,000 range. Go to some independent mechanic if Toyota isn't going to do anything for you.
#2500 of 5330 Jumping the gun....
Mar 21, 2005 (9:22 am)
None of us really know enough to be jumping on Toyota about this yet. I'm personally suspicious that whoever changed the oil last simply didn't put the required level in the engine.
My 2001 911 only requires an oil change every 15,000 miles and my 2001 Lexus only every 7500 miles. I DIY oil changes and with this level of mileage the oil is NEVER what I would call dirty and in case of the Lexus I am always amazed that it simply doesn't burn any oil between changes.
So, even with NO changes at 29,000 miles I don't see how the oil could be that dirty or that much burned absent something wrong with the engine.
Or some gofer at a quick oil change only put three quarts in a five quart refill.
Given my own experiences at Lexus dealers regarding oil changes I'll vote for the latter problem until proven otherwise.
#2501 of 5330 Jumping the gun.... by wwest
Mar 21, 2005 (10:15 am)
I agree with you Wwest. IMO, unless there's a more reasonable explanation, it isn't the engine. This tale has an odd dimension to it,like it's intent is to keep a long dead issue alive? Just too many coincidences at this stage.
Right or wrong, I've gotta be honest about what I think is going on.
See you in a month.
#2502 of 5330 Re: Jumping the gun.... by wwest [pilot130]
Mar 21, 2005 (10:35 am)
I agree, I too "smelled a rat". I'm always hesitant when I read a story like that from someone who just joined Edmunds fora yesterday.
#2503 of 5330 Re "I too "smelled a rat".-mikefm58
Mar 21, 2005 (10:48 am)
I know it's off topic, and I won't belabor the point further, but it seems patented responses with the same theme always occur under the same circumstances.
More like an advertising campaign than a typical discussion.
Wish this was wrong, but I don't think it is.
Next post will be from Australia.
En route tonite.
#2504 of 5330 Automatic Lock/Unlock Doors?
Mar 21, 2005 (1:21 pm)
On my '98 Avalon when I turn on the engine or turn off the engine, my doors lock/unlock automatically. Is there any way to enable this on my 2003 Highlander?
#2505 of 5330 Re: Automatic Lock/Unlock Doors? [henrywang]
Mar 21, 2005 (1:39 pm)
No I don't believe there is a way to program this
feature in the Highlander. I for one do not like automatic door lock controls. I like to lock my doors and unlock them when I want to.
#2506 of 5330 WAIT, Again....
Mar 21, 2005 (1:40 pm)
I was in no way implying that the poster was being deceptive. I was simply saying that we do not yet have enough information to be saying Toyota, or anyone, is at fault.
But admittedly the low oil issue bothers me more than anything else.
#2507 of 5330 Re: Automatic Lock/Unlock Doors? [bdyment]
Mar 21, 2005 (1:42 pm)
bdyment, I second the motion, I also don't like the automatic door locks...I like having the control. However, I would also like to be able to unlock all doors with one push of the remote button, but dealer wants $50 to make this change. It says in the manual it is possible: "see your dealer"
#2508 of 5330 Re: Blame me for dirty oil..... [khorn]
Mar 21, 2005 (1:49 pm)
This definitely sounds like a situation that merits getting a second opinion, either from a different Toyota dealer or from an independent mechanic that you trust.
I would also try contacting the Toyota corporate office if you haven't done so already.
When I had problems with my last car, I worked directly with the corporate office after getting the runaround from my local dealer. It was a much smoother process.
Good luck with whichever route you take.