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Toyota Highlander Maintenance and Repair

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Re: Heated seats not working?? [jds4218] by spencer327
Jan 21, 2005 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: jds4218 (Jan 21, 2005 11:52 am)

04 HL heated seats work like the tranny. sometimes nice heat output, other times just barely feel it. Control of heating is poor.
thermostatic control is inconsistant.You are never sure what temperature you are going to get.
One of the disappointments with the HL
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Re: Heated seats not working?? [jds4218] by desertguy
Jan 21, 2005 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: jds4218 (Jan 21, 2005 3:32 pm)

I was using them in Iowa the latter part of the winter last year. Now in the Phoenix area and probably will never turn them on!
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Re: Question regarding the hesitation problem [kads] by flyingdoc
Jan 21, 2005 (9:59 pm)
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Replying to: kads (Jan 17, 2005 6:51 pm)

"Bottom line--Why pay $30-35 grand for a car with a known problem the manufacturer won't fix?"
 
Exactly right. I am currently in the market for an SUV. I want 4WD or AWD and decent cargo room. A quiet, smooth ride is important to me (I know, I know it is an SUV, but some have a better ride than others). I came very close to buying a Highlander 2 or 3 weeks ago, but while in the process of negotiating price, started reading about this problem. The sales people at the 2 dealerships I've dealt with deny ever hearing about any potential hesitation problem. Only after I showed them the multiple notes on this forum, the newspaper articles, etc, they still say that they don't know anything about it, haven't been told anything by corporate. Their response is that the vehicle is covered by a good, long warranty so if it has problems, I can bring it to the service department. Of course, my concern is that others have not been able to get the problem fixed and Toyota corporate spokesmen are quoted in newspaper articles as saying that they are still working on the problem.
 
It's really too bad, because in every other way, the Highlander is what I'm looking for. But a potentially serious safety issue is a deal breaker for me. For example, I also won't look at those vehicles that tipped in the government testing (Ford Escape, for example). So, I'm still looking, but unfortunately not at the Toyota Highlander (or at least until Toyota says that they can fix this problem).
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Re: Question regarding the hesitation problem [flyingdoc] by spencer327
Jan 22, 2005 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: flyingdoc (Jan 21, 2005 9:59 pm)

The only way of looking at it is that all vehicles have some failings. The compromises are in the hands of the individual who is paying the bucks. All manufacturers will stonewall problems after the fact. I for one have little confidence of any manufacturer making significant retroactive changes. Once a design is in the works it is driven by pure economics. An informed customer is the best defense. Thanks to info such as provided in these forums we can be helped into choices.
The HELP and DANGER lies in the info in the forums. Since there is no way to verify anything. Caveat Emptor
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Re: Question regarding the hesitation problem [spencer327] by flyingdoc
Jan 22, 2005 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: spencer327 (Jan 22, 2005 9:13 am)

I agree that all vehicles have some failings, absolutely right! Almost all vehicles have some sort of compromise.
 
"Once a design is in the works, it is driven by pure economics". While I would agree that manufacturers may want to downplay any pattern problems that occur, when there is a problem that is of such significance that it appears in the news media and there are numerous complaints to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, then it effects the economics. I am a ready and able buyer about to purchase an SUV. I'm sold on many aspects of their product, but as I said, this is a deal breaker for me. If it becomes a deal breaker for enough potential buyers, the manufacturer will be "driven by pure economics" to address the issue. Now whether or not it gets to that point on this issue is another question!!
 
I do sincerely wish that Toyota would address the issue in some substantive way. If I was convinced that it could be fixed or was fixed on new models, I'd be at the dealership this afternoon. Seriously!!
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The answer is simple.... by wwest
Jan 22, 2005 (2:57 pm)
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but the solution is complex.
 
All they have to do to fix the problem is to modify the firmware such that the "upshift" sequence is significantly delayed, or just simply isn't in the "program".
 
But that would undoubtedly mean recomputing the fuel economy for several LARGE fleets of vehicles/models already in use for many years.
 
Not just PR disaster but likely MILLIONS $$$$ in CAFE penalties for the millions of vehicles already in service.
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by edh
Jan 22, 2005 (4:26 pm)
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hard to believe it would make any difference in mileage
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Noise by grahampeters
Jan 22, 2005 (8:22 pm)
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G'day
 
Whilst not wishing to appear rude, I cannot help noticing that there is much huffing and puffing regarding the engine hesitation issue that could far more sensibly be directed to the specific board that has been created for it. I am likely to create further discord by noting that the majority of these posts reflect fear of the problem rather than an actual issue.
 
It is very difficult to identify those posts which are for non hesitation issues.
 
Could I please add my voice to the hosts in suggesting that this issue be dealt with in an appropriate place (ie the board given over to it)
 
Thank you
 
Graham
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Noise by pilot130
Jan 23, 2005 (4:41 am)
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Astute input from "middle earth" Graham, and you're correct in observing that there seems to be mostly huffing, puffing, and speculating about the issue than anything else. There doesn't seem too be much difference (nor anything new either)at the proper board as well. I ceased input at either board for that reason. No point rehashing the same things day after day.
Where are you at and what's your ride in NZ?

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