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Replying to: bdyment (Jan 02, 2005 9:57 am) "The only way to keep them running when it was damp was to keep your foot lightly on the gas, and brake with your left foot." |
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seems to be in post 9761 in the Highlander forum, in reference to something that appeared in the Chicago Tribune. Sorry I misinterpreted your comment, junepeg. Are there no right-footed brakers on record as having the hesitation problem?
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Replying to: herzogtum71 (Jan 04, 2005 12:00 pm) I'm willing to bet most of us with the hesitation problem are right-foot brakers. Yet another occurence of the phenomenon this morning, pulling out in front of a long line of cars. Knew it was going to happen, so didn't freak out about it, just shook my head and wondered why Toyota hasn't sent me a platinum gilded letter inviting me to have the problem fixed at their expense and pronto. |
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Replying to: bdyment (Jan 04, 2005 9:26 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Jan 04, 2005 6:30 pm) The earlier post about the malfunctioning moonroof normalization procedure "cure" makes me believe there is a "back door" reset to some of the problems we see posted here. That one is apparently listed in the Owners Manual on page 34. It doesn't surprise me that the Toyota management doesn't spend much energy broadcasting this info from the Engineers in Japan. I've worked as a Field Engineer for 4 foreign-owned high-tech companies in the last 14 years, and it's amazing how close to the vest some info is kept. Don't forget that Toyota USA is only a distributor for much of the product here - and does very little of the nuts-and-bolts design engineering.
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I've stated my opinion in another HL forum, and thought it might be of interest here. I should explain that it's my opinion, and mine only; I don't expect everyone to agree, and I don't intend it to be a condemnation of other's opinions or comments on the issue. On the contrary, I fully respect other's comments, and the concerns of those who are unhappy with their HLs because of their experiences. The short answer to the dilemma is to choose another make and model if the hesitation reports are of concern. I can guarantee, however, there are equally controversial and negative concerns being expressed about many, if not all, other makes and models too. Here's my take on the "hesitation" issue: Somewhere between two and three hundred THOUSAND Highlanders are on the road at present. Somewhere between twenty five and thirty five hesitation experiences have been reported in all the Edmunds forums, noteably this one. Many more owners, including yours truly, have neither reported nor experienced similar problems. The single fact that only a small percentage of reports are made leads to the conclusion that it isn't occurring in most HLs, and because hesitation isn't widely experienced it isn't likely a design problem. These vehicles are all produced to the same design and manufacture specifications, and any deviation would be an anomaly, not a universal situation. The common denominator on the hesitation reports seems to be that it apparently can be induced under a very unique and specific set of circumstances. These circumstances, when reported,are summarized in the following statement: "Decelleration with no throttle applied until tranny is in low gear, then full throttle application. At that point there might be up to "one to two second hesitation" (reports vary from momentary to the full two seconds) at which time full power occurs." Toyota has acknowledged reports, and apparently is looking into it with the idea that some kind of fix "may" be developed. My guess is that Toyota's fix, if and when it ever happens, will be a TSB reprogram of the Eprom control chip which will prevent the phenomenon from being induced under any circumstances. I further speculate that most owners have never, and won't likely ever, experience the hesitation. I believe it may have been reported early on by a few owners who by coincidence managed to induce the hesitation, then subsequent followers of those reports went out and tried to induce it themselves. Some actually did, and reported their results also. Now there's a full blown controversy over it, but I honestly believe it's being inflated out of proportion. Is it a common problem? No. In fact I think it takes some effort to induce it, as opposed to it happening often. Is it systemic across the board? Not at all. Too many owners aren't experiencing it. Is it the life threatening safety issue some claim exists? I don't think so, nor do I think any Public Agencies would think so either. Having said all that, to those who are considering a change, avoid undue and unnecessary anxiety. Choose someone else's product. I don't think Toyota would mind.
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Replying to: pilot130 (Jan 05, 2005 6:19 am) Also, just because an individual personally cannot replicate the problem does not mean it does not exist nor does it mean it is not widespread nor does it lessen the seriousness. I see similarities here with the sludge problems in Toyotas. No one other than Toyota muckety-mucks knows how widespread sludge is either, but many who did not have the problem got downright nasty with those who did. I know it hurts some people’s pride to hear bad comments about a vehicle That they love, but it just shouldn’t be taken so personally (and maybe they shouldn't hang out at message boards for "problems". I empathize with all those experiencing the problem. Whether widespread or not, many of those who have made reports of the problem here have been placed in dangerous situations due to the hesitating transmission (just read a few of these near miss reports!) and this should be remedied by Toyota ASAP. If it is not widespread, just think how inexpensively Toyota will get off on a fix! How bad can it be to fix what hopefully is just a small number of problematic transmissions and avoid the potential for even one serious accident? |
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However I truly believe the evidence shows your assessment of the hesitation issue is incorrect. But I appreciate the respectful way you tried to make your case. Thanks.
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Replying to: herzogtum71 (Jan 04, 2005 12:00 pm) |
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My Toyota Highlander 2001 has a problem. Every time I go through a puddle of water, the carpet is drenched. Last week, one inch of water was in the car. I heard that a Robot Wielding defect in the front wheel well created a gap that allows water to enter the car. Does anyone else know of this problem? Has Toyota acknowledged that there is a defect in some models?
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