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You are in the Toyota Highlander
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Highlander, SUV
Dec 22, 2004 (12:33 pm)
Well, I doubt you are going to get more specific than that, especially if the person is doing a countdown in their head. Others have mentioned the same approximate interval. Anecdotal, again, but you seemed interested.
Here are two other references to the 1-2 second delay:
#1935 of 2172 Test Drove an 05 Highlander & 05 Rx 330 by audionut1 Nov 03, 2004 (12:02 am)
The highlander had the trans/engine hesitation issue...slowing down to a near stop and then after applying the gas, 1-2 sec hesitation, then the trans shifted abruptly. I was able to replicate this behavior time and time again. However, the Rx trans/engine was always smooth. We have a 2002 Highlander and it's been great...very quiet, very comfortable seats, smooth engine and trans. My brother in law is a master tech for Lexus...the 05 Rx has new software which fixs this hesitation problem. Interesting that Toyota has not applied this patch to the highlander.
#1980 of 2172 05 V6 Hesitation by jcor Nov 11, 2004 (4:40 pm)
Found this site after seaching the web on this issue. My 05 V6 2WD Highlander has 1-2sec hesitation when coasting at 10-20mph then accelerating. It's so un-nerving that my teen will not drive it because of the hesitation. It's certainly annoying and possibly dangerous particularly at intersections and turns with oncoming traffic. I plan to bring it up as a major issue at my upcoming 1000mi service, but want to be prepared for the service mgr. After reading all the posts on this, I'm still confused. Is there really a "fix" that Lexus has for the 05 Rx330 that would work on the Highlander, or is this just speculation. Does Toyota or Lexus acknowledge this problem even exists? Has anyone had this problem sucessfully fixed by a Toyota dealer? If so, what was done? Thanks.
#2174 of 5330 Precise info....
Dec 22, 2004 (2:19 pm)
Has anyone who is experiencing the hesitation problem yet tried shifting into a lower, the lowest, gear manually to see if that overcomes the hesitation?
Just as a trial, not as a solution.
Have we confirmed, or not, that it is only the FWD vehicles and not the AWD vehicles?
#2175 of 5330 Hesitation - I'm a believer now!
Dec 22, 2004 (2:43 pm)
I bought my 04 Highlander in June and drive it in No. Cal. in a rural community. I read about the hesitation issue and told myself it must be a driver issue. Then - it happened. While visiting in So. Cal. , I was coming down the transition ramp from Balboa Peninsula onto PCH. ( essentially no merging space). I slowed to look at what I was merging into and saw a BIG truck hauling about a 50 foot yacht. My choice was to stop on the on ramp or "hit it" and proceed ahead of the truck. I "hit it" and nothing happened. I honestly thought the engine had quit. Then finally the hesitation was over and I barely avoided being run over by a big yacht.
I'm back in No. Cal. now with no hesitation issues.
I feel sorry for those that drive in heavy and fast traffic daily and have to put up with the hesitation issue. I believe now that it is real!
#2176 of 5330 Re: Let's Stick To Issues Please, Not Personal Observations. [desertguy]
Dec 22, 2004 (3:25 pm)
I agree. Reasonable people of all stripes will not require proof or evidence from either side.
Pilot -- Now that you've received a bit of observational information from those who have experienced the hesitation, what does your engineer's mind tell you about what may be the cause?
#2177 of 5330 Hmurphy. It's Too Soon To Draw Conclusions
Dec 22, 2004 (5:42 pm)
Murph, at this juncture about the only thing my "Engineer's Mind" (previous sarcasm omitted) tells me is that available data is far too inconsistent and woefully insufficient for anyone to conclude anything.
So far you've got some saying the interval is one to two seconds; some very graphic and dramatic stories devoid of any tangible data as to interval time; others saying the interval is a split second at most; still others who say there is no hesitation at all; a corporate position that's been misinterpreted; and much of the issue wrapped in speculation and editorializing.
If you want me to make any kind of statement, the most I would dare to say is that Desertguy may be even closer to the truth than we all thought!
Let's just be patient and see where this goes.
Remember--Problem Solving 101. Any problem, if it exists at all, really should be identified before pointing at causes or solutions. That doen't seem to be the case in this situation. Most of those reasonable people you point to would suggest the accused is being executed with no benefit of factual,consistent, or conclusive
evidence, much less a fair trial.
But I'm fairly sure "reasonable" isn't what you wanted to hear, correct??
#2178 of 5330 Re: Hmurphy. It's Too Soon To Draw Conclusions [pilot130]
Dec 22, 2004 (6:11 pm)
You know, now it's getting fun! Kinda like having the "old arm chair quarterback".
Pilot, you're back on the "if it exists at all" kick. Good for you!
I'm still listening.....
Dec 22, 2004 (11:33 pm)
While test driving an '05 HL and an '05 RX330 a month ago I specifically used Pilot's "one-thousand-one..." method for measuring the duration of the hesitation. I came up with 3/4 of a second for both vehicles.
I remember the first time I experienced hesitation a couple of years ago -- it seemed like it was somewhere between 1 to 2 seconds in duration. I think this is because you're typically in a critical situation when the hesitation occurs, when even fractions of a second can seem like an eternity.
wwest, next time I think to do it, I'll try down-shifting to see whether it cuts-short the hesitation. (My prediction: it won't make any difference -- gear shifting will be subject to the ECM's hesitation algorithm.)
(pilot130, you want to know why there's notable absence of factual data on these boards? I'll tell you why there's notable absence of factual data on these boards. It's because we're lazy! We prefer to spend our time idly posting messages rather than getting out there and performing detailed experiments to accurately characterize the hesitation issue. That sounds too much like work. If you're like me, you're spending your time on these boards because you want a break from work! Isn't that why we're all here?)
#2180 of 5330 Landriver, You May Have A Point There.
Dec 23, 2004 (4:11 am)
Certainly, any hesitation--even for a split second, might seem like an eternity under certain circumstances.
Isofar as most of us being either lazy or taking a break from work, I cannot speak to that.
I can say, however, my primary interest in this issue is only to learn.
I can also say it appears some here want only to condemn, and accepting anything beyond their preconceived conclusions aren't tolerated.
Thanks for the input in any event.
#2182 of 5330 Factual Data
Dec 23, 2004 (6:40 am)
Not Fact = Fiction = Lie
Sounds like personal insults are being slung at pretty much everyone who has posted their experience on this issue.