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Run the engine.....
by wwest
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Nov 14, 2004 (3:26 pm)
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before oil change will allow the oil to pickup and hold in suspension some of the particles that have settled into the bottom of the sump.
So you not only drain quickly, you get more of the "sediments" removed.
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- #1997 of 4691
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Re: Hesitation Issue [tommyg12]
by wbay
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Nov 15, 2004 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: tommyg12 (Nov 11, 2004 12:53 pm)
I test drove an '05 HL LTD and was able to reproduce the hesitation every time. Pre-04 models evidently do not have the drive by wire system, and don't experience the hesitation. The Salesman hadn't heard of the problem, but was a believer after the test drive. Just turning a corner and punching the accelerator was enough to cause the acceleration. Even on a straight stretch punching the gas pedal produced a noticable delay. Also drove an '05 Tundra and experienced no hesitation whatsoever. Have resigned myself to living with the problem, but have learned to alleviate it slightly by depressing the accelerator about halfway rather than flooring it, and actually stepping on the gas before I'm out of a turn. Dumb to have to do this, but it works reasonably well.
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- #1998 of 4691
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car salesman always deny any problem
by edh
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Nov 15, 2004 (1:46 pm)
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on my test drivethere was this horrible vibaration when you pressed on the brakes salesman kept denying it was there.
they also "have never heard of" any other pattern problems
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- #1999 of 4691
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Re: Hesitation Issue [wbay]
by desertguy
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Nov 15, 2004 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: wbay (Nov 15, 2004 1:19 pm)
You know it makes absolutely NO sense to me that some have this hesitation problem and some like myself don't. I tried to reproduce it in a large empty parking lot by going 15 -20 mph and making either a sharp left or sharp right turn and then flooring it and it had no hesitation at all. I'm grateful I don't have it but the question is, why don't I and many others have the same problem. I currently have 5500 miles on my '04 HL.
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- #2000 of 4691
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Re: Hesitation Issue [desertguy]
by wbay
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Nov 15, 2004 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: desertguy (Nov 15, 2004 2:18 pm)
I can only report that I've driven two HL's and both had the "problem." I wonder if there's a possibility your 04 HL was built before the drive by wire system was being installed. Anything in your owner's manual?
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- #2001 of 4691
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Re: Hesitation Issue [wbay]
by desertguy
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Nov 15, 2004 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: wbay (Nov 15, 2004 5:46 pm)
I dunno. My manufactured date is 01/04.
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- #2002 of 4691
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Re: Hesitation Issue [desertguy]
by landdriver
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Nov 15, 2004 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: desertguy (Nov 15, 2004 6:43 pm)
On my '01 you can look above the gas pedal under the dash and see where the cable enters the cabin and attaches to the pedal. I imagine on a fly-by-wire HL a variable resistor or something would be attached to the pedal along with an associated wire harness.
On rare occasions my '01 exhibits hesitation and thus I don't think it's caused by the introduction of fly-by-wire (too lazy to check previous posts but thinking other pre '04 owners experienced the problem too), although its possible the problem is exasperated by the introduction of fly-by-wire.
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- #2003 of 4691
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Re: Hesitation Issue [desertguy]
by landdriver
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Nov 15, 2004 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: desertguy (Nov 15, 2004 6:43 pm)
Also, I test drove an '04 when it first came out and didn't notice any difference in acceleration-related issues (I did notice right off however the increased power of the newer 3.3 V6), so I think the issue is rooted in the driving characteristics of the driver rather than the vehicle itself (though this is only a theory and I don't rule out that there indeed is a difference between HLs, possibly linked to the "brain" of the system learning driving habits and "adjusting" vehicle performance). These driving characteristics may be too complex to sufficiently document here in order to reproduce the problem consistently.
I remember in the first days of driving the HL that I found its shift points to be somewhat awkward and acceleration a little sluggish, and I adjusted my driving habits to compensate and eventually it became a subconscious act. Others may have different expectations in how a vehicle should respond and may be less tolerant of its idiosyncrasies.
At any rate there apparently is a fix for the RX330, so it's a real problem that Toyota is aware of.
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- #2005 of 4691
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Need....
by wwest
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Nov 16, 2004 (7:41 am)
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to concentrate on the differences, hesitation or not.
FWD vs AWD..
I4 vs V6...
For those of you experiencing hesitation, COLD engine/transmission?
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