- #2013 of 2022
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Re: A4 2.0T tail pipe soot [ilrndude]
by deepstar
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Jun 09, 2009 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: ilrndude (Jul 10, 2008 5:38 pm)
Ok well It's Been A few thousand Miles later Im up to about 18,000 Miles Been Driving on the "Recomended" Gas for a long time now, and I still have oily slimy soot in both exhaust Tips. Can't keep em clean. This can't be normal. Even though the Dealer says this is normal. It's B.S. I don't trust em! This is a NEW Car! This NEVER happend to my three previous new cars which were Acura: Integra, RSX, and RSX TypeS.
Also is now burning a full quart of oil just 4,000 miles after my last oil change.
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- #2014 of 2022
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2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch
by embeeduece
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Jun 22, 2009 (3:35 pm)
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Used car. Bought in Jan. 50K miles. Had some work done, all covered under extended warranty. Blew out my clutch this wknd. Dealership svc is quoting me $2700.00. Parts, labor, etc. I have no choice, really, but have read the clutch history in this discussion. Is this amount reasonable in the Audi world?
Thanks,
Mike
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- #2015 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [embeeduece]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jun 22, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: embeeduece (Jun 22, 2009 3:35 pm)
Seems high to me, but I don't know exactly what they are replacing. The clutch disc and pressure plate are about $500 retail, and labor is roughly 9.5 hours. So even by California labor rates, I would think $2000 bucks would more than cover this.
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- #2016 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [Mr_Shiftright]
by embeeduece
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Jun 23, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 22, 2009 6:06 pm)
Thanks! I'll see what the final cost shakes out to later today and report back. I know they said the flywheel needed to be replaced too.
Mike
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- #2017 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [embeeduece]
by vwdawg
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Jun 23, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: embeeduece (Jun 23, 2009 2:27 pm)
Hi Mike: I am by no means an Audi expert, but I have a mint '97 A4 as well as a Passat and Jetta (which is why I REALLY appreciate and am TOTALLY amazed by the expert commentary from the experienced and knowledgeable Audi and VW owners out there...without the Edmunds forums I don't believe I would dare buy a used German vehicle!). In any case, common sense tells me, as with medical diagnoses, that it never hurts to get a second opinion. It seems that there are some good dealership departments and some really bad ones that generate a lot of hate mail on the forums. Have you tried to find a local Audi/VW specialist where you can actually get to know and TRUST the person who does the work on your car? I have no idea how the dealership can say "flywheel needs to be replaced" without doing the teardown. Maybe other commentators could confirm it that's possible, but that statement alone would make me a bit nervouus. In any case, if I were you, I would get that second opinion. Good luck! audiphile1
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- #2018 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [vwdawg]
by embeeduece
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Jun 23, 2009 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: vwdawg (Jun 23, 2009 3:39 pm)
Yeah, the flywheel tacked on an addtl $800. I did get to use an Audi loyalty coupon for 10% off. Woo Hoo! I'm open to the notion that I just got hosed; but I also didn't want to take the time to go get the 2nd opinion, get towed, etc. And so far, this guy has been a straight shooter w/ me; helped me navigate the extended warranty people; etc. He also told me to not even think about getting tires thru him because of the expense; he told me to go to discount tire vendors. At any rate, I'm up and running again. Thanks for the input!
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- #2019 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [embeeduece]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jun 23, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: embeeduece (Jun 23, 2009 4:21 pm)
Yep that flywheel retails for $980 bucks plus another .2 of a hour to replace it.
So all in all I think the guy was straight with you. Yes you could have skipped the flywheel perhaps, and put in a cheaper aftermarket clutch kit, and maybe the job would be 1800 bucks, but you know, this is not the kind of task you want to do twice.
And it should last the car's normal lifespan from this point on.
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- #2020 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [Mr_Shiftright]
by embeeduece
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Jun 23, 2009 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 23, 2009 5:00 pm)
Thanks! I appreciate the validation / confirmation. I figured the same; I could save *some* money, but I'd rather have it all done correctly and thoroughly by Audi techs. The clutch etc. are kinda important.
Thanks again!
Mike
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- #2021 of 2022
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Re: 2005 Audi A4 Quattro Clutch [embeeduece]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Jun 24, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: embeeduece (Jun 23, 2009 6:28 pm)
It's too bad the flywheel was bad but if it was rough or had cracks it could cause clutch chatter.
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- #2022 of 2022
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Sounds like the dealer tech is AOK
by vwdawg
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Jun 24, 2009 (9:25 am)
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embeeduece: After hearing the additional info and getting input from Mr. Shiftright, sounds like this is an OK deal. I think I'm spoiled...I had the good fortune of finding a local foreign car specialist who does top-notch work, stands behind it, and charges a fair rate (not CHEEP-CHEEP, which is what we DON'T need). I still think it's a good idea to keep your ears open for feedback from other Audi owners regarding which shop does the best work. The advantage is that you're probably going to have the same tech work on your rig every time, and you can develop that long-term trust relationship. audiphile1
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