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Audi A4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

1537 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM

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Re: What is REAL cost; invoice clearly inflated [waygrabow] by 09tlawd
Sep 20, 2008 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Sep 19, 2008 6:21 pm)

That would be a reasonable explanation waygrabow, but that would also apply to other vehicles manufactured outside of the US (or even some Japanese cars 'made in the USA', but with parts sourced mainly from Japan). Certainly the Japanese Yen to US Dollar exchange rate fluctuates and if the dollar drops relative to the Euro then it drops relative to Yen as well.
 
I think the answer is more simple - a few manufacturers have realized that most educated consumers compare their final deal on a new vehicle to either 1) savings off of MSRP or 2) amount paid compared to "invoice". You can see comments on most of the Prices Paid & Buying Experience threads on most vehicles where people compare their deals to MSRP and/or Invoice.
 
By raising the invoice amount to a falsely inflated number, Audi, BMW, and probably others are able to make consumers feel like they have gotten a bargain and the car manufacturers still make the same profits they always have.
 
Good marketing, but bad for buyers' wallets.
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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [luvlee824] by rxke
Sep 20, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: luvlee824 (Sep 08, 2008 10:38 am)

Hi
 
One of the cars I am looking at is the 2009 A4 among others. What dealer did you go to in NY? I live in Westchester county.
 
thanks
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What a nice car!! by djdj
Sep 20, 2008 (12:13 pm)
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The dealer where I get my 2003 A4 1.8 FrontTrak serviced was having an introductory show today for the new A4. Nothing but A4's in the showroom and three out front for test drives.
 
I test drove the 2.0 sedan. I loved the way it drove, rode and handled. But in showroom, they had the Avant. Even better in person than the photos. I don't need a wagon but I think it looks great.
 
I didn't price shop because I'm not buying until January when my daughter gets her license and I'll let her drive the 2003.
 
We have 4 Audi dealers around Cleveland. Should be interesting to see if any are doing deals once the novelty has worn off. Also, I want to drive the new TL before I decide.
 
Has anyone else checked out the Avant?
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Re: What is REAL cost; invoice clearly inflated [09tlawd] by carsonotk
Sep 22, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: 09tlawd (Sep 19, 2008 5:21 pm)

This is an interesting question, ie. is the published invoice price real? Just bought a 2009 A4 sedan at about 5% over invoice, or $1000 less than sticker. The dealer told me that my invoice data was too low by $700 and confirmed this with the invoice for an identical car he had just sold (and which I had seen on the lot a few days before). So if the true figure is the edmunds.com invoice, I paid 5% over, and if it was the dealer's figure, I paid 3% over.
 
I have an unconfirmed suspicion that dealer invoice is inflated somehow. But one would think that Audi would risk a class action lawsuit and a reputation risk if they did that. Maybe they get by with publishing "estimated" invoice figures, that edmunds.com then publishes as actual invoice. The invoice does seem a little too close to MSRP for a premium vehicle like this.
 
Anyway, I hope the suspicions are unfounded, as I would like to believe this was a decent deal! Car arrives in mid-October from Germany. I probably won't care about a thousand or two once I get behind the wheel!
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Couple things. by kyfdx HOST
Sep 23, 2008 (4:58 pm)
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1) Audi doesn't "publish" the invoice price... It's a confidential document, meant only for their dealers.. So, I don't think there is any risk on their part, no matter what the numbers are.
 
2) Actual dealer invoices usually have some sort of regional advertising charge. That usually accounts for any discrepancy between what Edmunds states as the invoice, and what the dealer says..
 
There isn't a lot of room between MSRP and invoice on an Audi. Personally, I think that is just a way to keep the MSRP lower than the competition..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Couple things. [kyfdx] by carsonotk
Sep 23, 2008 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Sep 23, 2008 4:58 pm)

Good information to have kyfdx. But how does Edmunds calculate an invoice price if it is confidential?
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Re: Couple things. [carsonotk] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 23, 2008 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: carsonotk (Sep 23, 2008 5:07 pm)

Well... I'd guess there is someone that breaks that confidence..
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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [rxke] by caoyijian
Sep 29, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: rxke (Sep 20, 2008 7:25 am)

The largest dealership in the area is New Country Audi in Greenwich, CT. The selections are good, rather easy to deal for cars in the lots.
Good luck.
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2006 Certified Audi A4 by krisnodoubt
Sep 29, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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I am really interested in buying this certified 2006 Audi A4 that I saw last weekend at a dealer's lot. I test drove it and the final offer from dealer is 23,900 + TTL
  
Specs: 2006 Audi A4 (registered Sept 2006)
2.0T Automatic Quattro
It is certified upto 6yrs/100,000 miles.
  
Is this a good deal and how is the reliability of this car? Can I trust the Audi certified warranty?
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Dealer Cash by kipa
Oct 01, 2008 (8:06 am)
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Anyone know what the current (October) dealer cash is on the remaining 2008's?
 
Kipa

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