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Audi A4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [rjorge3] by luvlee824
Sep 08, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: rjorge3 (Sep 08, 2008 10:17 am)

I just leased the 2009 A4 2.0 premium plus with navigation on Saturday. I leased for 15,000 miles a year 36mths however. I put down 2500, which included NY state taxes (8.375%), 1st payment and any other fees.
 
My payment per month is $583.00, they discounted 2100 off the MSRP price 40500 - 2200, came out to around $38,300.
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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [luvlee824] by rjorge3
Sep 08, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: luvlee824 (Sep 08, 2008 10:38 am)

Thanks guys for the prompt reply. That is what I thought, you got the car for 5.43% off MSRP, which makes more sense than the 8.5% discount that I've saw (it is a new car, thus that number seemed too aggresive).
 
The monthly pmts that I calculated now is $521.33 which is not too bad. I was comtemplating the Acura TL Type S, (08), but the lease comes out to $500+ and although it has all the toys, I miss the way my 05 handled. Is there any loyalty discounted for having owned a audi before? I just returned mine last month.
 
Last, did they have the car in stock or did you order it? if you ordered, how long did you have to wait?
 
Thanks again,
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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [rjorge3] by luvlee824
Sep 08, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: rjorge3 (Sep 08, 2008 10:53 am)

They have it coming in, I will be getting it first week of October, they said if ordering it will take 2.5-3 months. They did have a lot of new 09s in the lot however but my color and options were not there. I am not sure if Audi has a loyalty program this is my first audi, i know BMW does so I would definitely ask them. Stick with the Audi, Acura is nice too but the 09 is impressive.
 
Another dealer quoted me 650, wouldnt even budge off the price since it is so new, if your in jersey, that is where I purchased, Bell Audi in Edison.
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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [luvlee824] by rjorge3
Sep 08, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: luvlee824 (Sep 08, 2008 11:10 am)

Thanks again, I just came back from Quality Audi (Brooklyn) and test drove the 2.0...what a sweet engine that is!! pretty torquie. The quote that I got was basically at MSRP and a crazy money factor, almost equivalent to 6.4% needless to say that I walked away. I've never paid MSRP for any of my cars and I think that the dealer was padding the money factor to make additional money on the deal. I will not go back there even if they call me again. The money factor has been published already and is not way near of what they've quoted me. \
 
 Oh well, I guess I will have to keep driving my old 94 Celica until the prices come down to reality.
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Re: 2009 A4 2.0 Premium Plus lease [rjorge3] by luvlee824
Sep 09, 2008 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: rjorge3 (Sep 08, 2008 2:54 pm)

Yeah I didnt bother going to Quality in Brooklyn, I figured they would try and rip me off... The rates though now (money factor ) are between 6 and 7 so that doesnt shock me. Maybe there will be a program in October... who knows.
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Current dealer cash by tmchan00
Sep 15, 2008 (10:36 pm)
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Does anybody know how much dealer cash are offered on 2008 A4 now? Until when? Many thanks.
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Re: Current dealer cash [tmchan00] by chugs
Sep 16, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: tmchan00 (Sep 15, 2008 10:36 pm)

I bought the car a 4 weeks back it was 2k.
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What is REAL cost; invoice clearly inflated by 09tlawd
Sep 19, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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With invoice on the 2009 A4 so close to MSRP, I looked around edmunds.com to see what % of profit there is on the A4 vs. some other cars. Turns out (including holdback) that a Honda Civic is 10%, Acura TL 11%, Porsche Cayman 13%, BMW 335 8%, and Audi only 7%. The Porsche makes sense as a lower volume premium vehicle. The Audi/BMW vs. Honda/Acura comparison clearly indicates that the A4 & 335 have profit hidden somewhere that consumers can't access. Premium brands would clearly have higher profit per vehicle compared to very high volume brands (Honda/Toyota) with less expenive product.
 
Could this be why for a new, significantly improved A4, people are already reporting being able to purchase at invoice?? An A4 ~$1600 below edmunds.com invoice would make the (consumer accessible) profit % in line with the Acura TL.
 
If anyone has data on where the rest of the A4 profit is hidden it would be greatly appreciated!!
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Re: What is REAL cost; invoice clearly inflated [09tlawd] by waygrabow
Sep 19, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: 09tlawd (Sep 19, 2008 5:21 pm)

An Audi rep told us that the profit margin on their vehicles varies depending on the Euro-dollar exchange rate. They can't drastically raise the prices when the dollar drops so instead they accept a lower profit marign. This is the current situation.
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Re: What is REAL cost; invoice clearly inflated [waygrabow] by 09tlawd
Sep 20, 2008 (4:42 am)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Sep 19, 2008 6:21 pm)

That would be a reasonable explanation waygrabow, but that would also apply to other vehicles manufactured outside of the US (or even some Japanese cars 'made in the USA', but with parts sourced mainly from Japan). Certainly the Japanese Yen to US Dollar exchange rate fluctuates and if the dollar drops relative to the Euro then it drops relative to Yen as well.
 
I think the answer is more simple - a few manufacturers have realized that most educated consumers compare their final deal on a new vehicle to either 1) savings off of MSRP or 2) amount paid compared to "invoice". You can see comments on most of the Prices Paid & Buying Experience threads on most vehicles where people compare their deals to MSRP and/or Invoice.
 
By raising the invoice amount to a falsely inflated number, Audi, BMW, and probably others are able to make consumers feel like they have gotten a bargain and the car manufacturers still make the same profits they always have.
 
Good marketing, but bad for buyers' wallets.

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