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Re: Is this a fair price to aim for a 2004 A4 [drbz #93] [abc323 #94] by drbz
Apr 16, 2004 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: abc323 (Apr 16, 2004 9:33 am)

Hi, again, I want to thank everyone for posting on here.
 
Well, it took 'bout 20 minutes of negotiating on the telephone, but I am going to pick up a 2004 black on black 1.8T A4 with ultrasport pkg, premium pkg, lighting pkg, cold weather, and (unfortunately) infotainment pkg for...$350 over their invoice (which will have a $200 advert. fee and $135 San Diego port fee). I think this is a reasonable, fair deal, and seems just about in line with what folks on this board are paying for them. I am in Seattle, WA.
 
To give some folks a background, we've been looking for a new car now for ~1 month. We test drove a Subaru WRX STi, Acura TL in an auto, and 2 A4's (1.8T and 3.0) manual. While the Acura was very smooth and nice, it was just a bit bland/Japanese generic, and the auto didn't excite us much. They didn't have a manual to test drive. The Subaru was an absolute hoot and a rocket (it feels faster than my '00 Corvette C5 coupe), and handled like on rails (not quite as good as the Vette), but we felt that it didn't offer any level of refinement or civility that we were looking for. Plus, neither of us liked the shopping-cart whale tail spoiler.
 
So, the Audi was a nice blend of what we were looking for. The 1.8T was peppy, and though low on absolute power, was more fun to drive than the TL by far (at least the auto), and we look forward to adding a chip to upgrade the power. I did my test drive at University Audi in Seattle, who didn't put any high pressure sales tactic on us (didn't even ask us for a copy of license before the drive!). I figured I could get a 'good deal' there, because I am friends with the VW area representative, who then introduced me to the Audi area rep. who then called the sales mgr., Ivan, at University to 'offer us a really great deal'. Needless to say, Ivan first offered us $1600 over invoice on a fully loaded 3.0 A4, saying "because you are the area rep's friend, only I can give you this great a deal." A day later, after we called him, he now told us $1000 over invoice "but that's it...any less and we'd be losing money." We expressed to him how 'disappointing' this deal was, and thanked him for his time. By now, I had called 2 other Audi dealers, Barrier, and Robert Larson Audi in Tacoma. Only the Tacoma Audi had the 1.8T in ultrasport, in black on black. After only the 2nd phone conversation with the sales guy (his name was Jeff Hamel), I pitched my offer of $300 over invoice--he asked whether I could go higher, and I told him $350 over--but he could tell his mgr. $400 over would be my max--any more, and we'll sit out the season and not buy. Well, 5 minutes later, he called and told me "congratulations...$350 over invoice." That was for a model withOUT infotainment package--1/2 hour later, he told me that that model had actually been sold, but they would honor the deal on their similar color/spec model +infotainment (extra $800). I told him fine (though I have some reason to sneer).
 
So, after a brief, relatively painless negotiation, we got the deal we wanted, on the car we wanted, and all made out happy. I was firm with him, and made sure he knew that :
1) we were in no hurry to buy a car (we really weren't)
2) were prepared to wait out until '05 models came out--and thus get '04 models at a discount
3) we had been shopping at the other Audi dealers, and did our homework on pricing on the internet, etc...I was fluent with the options and all the pricing
 
Couldn't have done it without the help of others on this board--Thanks!
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42 months lease $336 + tax by iggso
Apr 19, 2004 (7:52 pm)
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2004 Audi A4 1.8 T sedan with quattro, Tip, Premium pkg., Cold weather pkg, metalic color, 12k Miles.
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Re: 42 months lease $336 + tax [iggso #97] by audi_buyer
Apr 20, 2004 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: iggso (Apr 19, 2004 7:52 pm)

Hi, what are the taxes like on your lease? I'm planning to pick-up an A4 with 36mon/ 15K/yr lease... Any help would be appreciated..Thanks
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Re: 42 months lease $336 + tax [iggso #97] [audi_buyer #98] by iggso
Apr 20, 2004 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: audi_buyer (Apr 20, 2004 2:54 pm)

Depends on your state. could be 0 could be 8.5% of your monthly payment.
 
Mine is on the higher side
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Re: 42 months lease $336 + tax [iggso #97] [audi_buyer #98] [iggso #99] by audi_buyer
Apr 20, 2004 (10:18 pm)
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Replying to: iggso (Apr 20, 2004 3:59 pm)

Hi, could you help me figure this out... The MSRP for an A4 1.8T Q 6-speed with premium, sport, lighting is 32,420... my selling price is 30,061 at a MF of 0.0002 and residual of $17506 (54%).. for 36month, 15K/yr..
Now the way I calculated the payment is (according to Edmunds ofcourse)...
 
Car, I'll be using.. 30061-17506= 12555..per month= 348.75
The interest with money factor of 0.0002= (30061+17506)*0.0002= 9.5
 
So, the pretax with no down payment/ month = 348.75+9.5=359(appox)
 
Now, what should I pay for the car/ month including taxes if I live in Texas??
 
The dealer says my monthly payment= 434(appox)... and he took into account the same selling price, MF, residuals while arriving at this price.. he says its the tax!!!
 
Since, this is the first time I'm leasing, I'm confused.. is he taking me for a ride??
 
Any help would be much appreciated!!!
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Re: 42 months lease $336 + tax [iggso #97] [audi_buyer #98] [iggso #99] [audi_buyer #100] by iggso
Apr 21, 2004 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: audi_buyer (Apr 20, 2004 10:18 pm)

Hi,
 
It looks to me like the dealer is giving you a great lease deal.
 
359 a month for 36 months lease with 15k miles is a very good deal.
IF we assume that sales tax is Texas is 5% then your monthly payment should be $359 + $18 = $377.
 
If your dealer is telling you $434 then he could either be trying to take advantage of you, or he is adding yearly exsize tax to your lease.
 
You should check with dealer to understand, but also let the dealer know that if the payment is higher then it should be he needs to explain very well why.
 
Good luck.
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by pat HOST
Apr 23, 2004 (3:22 pm)
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Audi_buyer, why don't you also run those numbers by Car_man in our Lease Questions - Ask Here.
 
Good luck!
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Re: [pat #102] by audi_buyer
Apr 23, 2004 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Apr 23, 2004 3:22 pm)

I did that quite a while ago.... and I'm still waiting for an answer.. probably he missed my question... Thanks
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A4 Lease Deal by msf
Apr 23, 2004 (9:47 pm)
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Has anyone been able to get a NY/NJ Audi dealer to beat the advertised deal of $329 per month plus tax for 42 months and 10,000 miles per year?
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Re: [audi_buyer #103] by pat HOST
Apr 24, 2004 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: audi_buyer (Apr 23, 2004 6:30 pm)

Feel free to repost ... good luck!

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