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Audi A4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: [chris47] by jjota
Mar 05, 2006 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: chris47 (Jan 03, 2006 11:21 am)

chris,
 
you're not alone!
 
it seems audi don't care about customer service. i just recently visited princeton audi with my wife and was treated the same way. we were looking for the a4 special lease but the first words out of the salesman was that he does not have those cars and won't be getting one any time soon.
 
audi just missed on another customer, just signed up for a bmw. it's their loss.
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Lease vs. Buy by socalhelp
Mar 06, 2006 (10:12 pm)
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It sounds like most people are leasing Audi A4 2.0's. Would there be any reason to buy a new or slightly used one instead.
 
I have money to buy a car, but am considering leasing so I can save the money and invest in other places. I have only driven one car and had it for ten years so I do not have experience in leasing. I also have a long commute to work (i.e 30 miles one way) so am not sure if this should factor into my decision. Any advice or thoughts?
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Re: Lease vs. Buy [socalhelp] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 07, 2006 (3:55 am)
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Replying to: socalhelp (Mar 06, 2006 10:12 pm)

You'll probably be better off buying... I drive 21 miles one-way, and I'm right at 15K mi./yr.. You most likely drive 18K mi./yr or more.. and would need to purchase extra mileage..
 
Also... if you tend to keep your cars a long time, leasing isn't a viable option..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Lease vs. Buy [socalhelp] by pucknut
Mar 10, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: socalhelp (Mar 06, 2006 10:12 pm)

Advice for the lease: Weigh it heavily. You will get into trouble if you drive a lot! In the end, whether you turn in or buy, you will regret then.
 
Way back, I was offered a great deal which would allow me to get into the A4. Feeling excited and nutz, and having money from working a lot, I felt the entitlement. Don't get me wrong, it is and was a great car. But at the end of the lease, to continue driving it (aka, own) my payments would go up.
 
Think of leasing this way: "Ok, I will lease. Able to ride around in a great car, for 3 years. Maintenance covered. Essentially a no problem car. Catch: what will I do when that 36m is up?!"
 
I was not happy, having limited options and not having the particular means to buy another car, let alone have my monthly payment increase. However, should money be of no significance to you, then there really is no bad answer, let alone advice.
 
Granted, cars are like computers: never will make you money, always depreciate, and they will always come out with something better. So, if money is of no consequence, yes, go with the lease. However, if you can not be or allow yourself to be that free-spending, then definitely buy.
 
In probably 24-26m I will look to get back to an Audi! This time to own. For there are still little things that happen during a lease that are nerve-racking because it isn't YOUR car. Maintenance may be covered. Warranties may come in handy (but one has this if one buys a car... = push). But, if you ding the rims (as I did), it still comes out of your pocket for the rim repair guy through the dealer for X dollars. Different driving when it is someone elses.
 
Some things to think about... Best of luck.
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Re: Lease vs. Buy [kyfdx] by socalhelp
Mar 11, 2006 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 07, 2006 3:55 am)

Thanks kyfdx. I am hoping that I will not need to commute 40 miles each way to work soon. Hopefully, that will change to 20 miles each way and a 15K mile/yr lease should hopefully work. Also, I am thinking of not keeping cars as long as I used to.
 
If I do lease, do you recommend adding on navigation and technology package or buying a portable unit like TomTom? Thanks. It seems like if you order it with Navi and Tech package you end up paying for the entire cost over the lease and do not get anything back after the lease.
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Re: Lease vs. Buy [socalhelp] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 11, 2006 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: socalhelp (Mar 11, 2006 2:00 pm)

Options? That is sort of a personal thing.. I'd like to have NAV, but the chances of me paying $2K for it are about nil...
 
Some makes have lower residual percentages on NAV models, such as Acura, Honda, etc.. Some don't (BMW).
 
Unfortunately, I have no idea about Audi.. If the residual percentage is the same, then you are paying for the NAV at the same rate as the rest of the vehicle.. Then it just comes down to what you want to spend your money on... I like sport packages with upgraded tires/wheels... and xenon headlamps... Others like leather and XM radio..
 
Be sure to get what you want..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Salesman vs Sales Mgr by knge
Mar 12, 2006 (10:35 am)
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Hi,
 
Just a general question...
 
I am getting a chance to deal directly with a sales manager through a good friend of mine. I was wondering how much levrage (if any) are there in terms of dealing with this kind of relationship?
 
What should I expect? (if anything) The differences? etc..
 
Thanks
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Is this a good deal? by jamawass
Mar 12, 2006 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: knge (Mar 12, 2006 10:35 am)

Hi, I'm looking at an A4 3.2 quattro 2006, with technology package, bluetooth, premium package, sunroof and 17" tires. 36 month lease, 15000 miles/yr. Quoted $575/month $500 down plus first month payment.Is that good? I didn't get a quote on money factor, residual but this lease is based on a price of $39000. This is in Greensboro, NC. I was quoted $639/mo from a dealer in Raleigh. Thanks for any input
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Re: Lease vs. Buy [socalhelp] by pats1
Mar 12, 2006 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: socalhelp (Mar 06, 2006 10:12 pm)

If you are driving 60 miles round trip/day, leasing is probably not for you. I drive a little more than that each day, and my research showed me it was better to buy, especially the way Audi's seem to hold their value as compared to Japanese and American cars. The 15K+ miles/year will be expensive, even if you buy them up-front at a discount. Even with a higher residual on an A4, buying looked better to me. But, everyone looks t it differently, just like politics. I could not find and 2005 used ones locally - the closest was a 2004 with 22K miles at $27995. That probably would not have been a bad buy either as it was an Audi certified used car with a 100K mile warranty. If you can find one of those, consider it. The first two years' depreciation was eatne by someone else and the warranty is great.
 
Good luck!!
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leasing vs. buying by nyccarguy
Mar 12, 2006 (7:49 pm)
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Actually if you DO drive a lot of miles, leasing may be more conducive to you than you think. Look into taking a 36 month lease with the maximum alloted miles (15K per year). AT the end of the lease you pay the mileage overage. Divide that number by 36 and add it to your payment.
 
Then calculate what your payment will be on a 48 month or 60 month loan on a $40,000 A4 (if you're looking at a 3.2). If you do a lot of miles, say you mant to trade the car in of sell it in a few years. Depreciation will kill you on a high mileage car. It will be tough to sell or you'll be upside down on your trade.
 
At the end of the lease, you give them the car back and get a new one. Do the math and it might make more sense.

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