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Audi A4, Sedan
#1920 of 2044 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [samdc]
Jun 28, 2012 (7:18 pm)
I am going to tell the guy (as a barganing chip) I NEED to certify it with a 3rd party or direct with Audi as you mentioned...may help this go even lower.
only an Audi dealer can qualify the vehicle as Certified Pre-Owned, which has a series of benefits you can read about on Audiusa.com.
the price you are being quoted would be a great price for CPO, but it's average to high for a normal used car. (18k miles for a used car is exceptional, and often only seen on leased vehicles.) CPO tags on $2k-3k due to the warranty, roadside assistance, and typically replaced items such as tires, floormats and brake pads.
as noted several messages back I just bought a CPO 2009 A4 Avant, but there are a lot fewer of them in supply than the A4 Sedan, and msrp was lower to begin with.
#1921 of 2044 Final Answer?
Jun 29, 2012 (7:00 am)
So, is $22,000 a good deal for this car below?
Black over Black
2009 2.0T Quattro
Prem Plus (everything but no nav or camera)
brand new tires
coming off a commercial lease.
$26,990 asking price.
#1922 of 2044 Re: Final Answer? [samdc]
Jun 29, 2012 (7:23 am)
Yep, $22k is a good price.
Not that it matters, but premium plus isn't anywhere near 'everything but nav and rear view camera'. There were tons of other features in the 2009 model Prestige and S-Line options. They aren't worth it in my opinion, but my main point is that if you are thinking your car is nearly decked out... actually, no, it isn't.
No question it's a well appointed car that you will love. Now go buy it!
#1923 of 2044 2012 Audi A4 - evaluate deal
Jul 01, 2012 (6:54 pm)
I got back from a dealership in NJ, and this is what they offered me. This is for a 2012 Audi A4 Quattro, Premium Plus w/ B & O stereo for 15K miles / year.
MSRP : $41,450
Selling price : $38,008 (This is $1000 under invoice as he showed me.)
My trade-in value : $13,500 ( I was hoping for $14,500 as I checked Edmunds, NADA, and KBB for the values, and $14,500 was the supposed market value for my car)
Residual Value : 52%
Money factor : .00026
Registration : $396
Bank fee : $695
Doc fee : $349
Tax : $332.58 (He said this is low because of my trade-in. this includes a $7.50 tire tax)
My monthly payment would be $153.50 for 36 months.
All in all, I was getting $1000 less on my trade-in than I was hoping for. And, I was hoping to knock the price of the MSRP down to $4000, rather than $3400. I was hoping for a monthly payment for $100-125, 125 being the max. I was over that amount, so I asked them to throw in Audi Care for the $153 a month. They balked, and I left the dealership.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Also, I'm thinking of reducing my miles to 12K miles, which would probably help my cause. I figure I might not need 15K miles anymore, as I did a lot of driving over the past 2 years, but I foresee less driving so I may not need 15K miles / year.
#1924 of 2044 just bought a 2009 premium plus
Jul 02, 2012 (8:57 am)
black with beige interior (I liked the wood trim on my 2006 A4 although they seem to have downgraded the quality for the 2009) I miss the drawers under the front seats, the storage compartment under the steering wheel, the side and rear sunshades, the folding side mirrors, it also doesn't seem as zippy as the 2006 with the 3.2, probably because it's bigger? All that aside, it's a terrific looking car with a smooth ride, I do like the MMI and the digital speedometer. It doesn't have nav or back-up camera which were fairly easy to add to my 2006. With the MMI I think i's going to be a bit more difficult (read expensive)
So the original price was 32,998. It's a CPO with 21,000 miles on it. They came down to 31,929. After sales tax and document service fee of 250 the price was 34,806.95. Then I made a $5,000 down payment and a $7,000 trade-in, now we're at 22806.95. I got the GAP for $795 but have been since told to return it. Title fee of $250 then i opted for the Vehicle Service Contract at $2,999 (I've been told to return it as well. Any advice?) Then there's something called Total Other Charges and Amounts paid to Others on Your Behalf for $4,044. not sure what that is.. Ended up financing 26,850.95. Audi picked up the financing and gave me a 5.65% interest rate, which compared to what I've paid in the past is practically free, my last loan was at 17.88%. I did pay off a 6 year loan in 10 month though, so they didn't make much off me.
So do I want this service contract warranty?
#1925 of 2044 Re: just bought a 2009 premium plus [michael98112]
Jul 02, 2012 (9:05 am)
price sounds kinda high, to be honest.
and regarding the 3.2L, if you had a 2006 Quattro that engine did have 255 horsepower and about the same torque as the 2.0 TFSI in your new car, but the 2.0 only has 211 horsepower. the new engine makes a lot more torque below 2500 rpm, though, so it should feel plenty strong in ordinary driving.
the B8 chassis is definitely bigger but only modestly heavier-- around 60-75 pounds equipped the same.
#1926 of 2044 Shopping, not buying
Jul 24, 2012 (6:07 pm)
Offered on 2013 A4 with MSRP of $43,620 and invoice of $40,631. No trade in. I offered $41,936. Rejected. Counter offer was $42,748. That is where the cowboy rode away. IMO a reasonable, if not generous, offer was met with a extreme opening position. The time and cost of reaching an agreement was more than I care to endure.........if this pattern prevails at other dealers my love affair with Audi is ending when I close on the sale of my 2003 A4.
Jul 24, 2012 (5:17 pm)
The 2009 A4 Quattro is the 3.2, not the 2.0. I test drove a 2.0T, it was fine in town, but it didn't have have the guts I like on the freeway. So even though I only looked for a month, it seems the 3.2's are a lot harder to find. I could only find about 4 in the greater Seattle area. I had decided to wait until the end of the summer, but then the black one with the beige interior showed up with the wood trim and I caved. I heard somewhere that engines don't break in until 25k miles. I have no idea if this is true or not, but either I'm getting used to the car or it's getting faster. I decided to keep the Vehicle Service Plan after all. To add nav and back-up camera is going to cost $2,600 but that's definitely something I'll want to do.
Will adding a dual cat-back exhaust, and doing the equivalent of chipping (today they just adjust the computer) make much of a difference? And what will it do to my warranty?
Comparing my 06 3.2 and my 09 3.2, the 06 was much zippier. I miss being pushed back in my seat when I punch the accelerator. The 09 drives a little more like a luxury car than a sports car. I would describe it as having manners compared to the 06.
#1928 of 2044 Re: 2013 A4 at Invoice [audizeal]
Jul 24, 2012 (6:14 pm)
I suspect he means edmunds.com