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Audi A4 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

2051 messages,  Last post on Jun 03, 2013 at 4:30 PM

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#1911 of 2051 Re: 2013 A4 at Invoice [audizeal] by escortowner

Jun 25, 2012 (6:56 pm)

Replying to: audizeal (Jun 14, 2012 12:39 pm)
I got mine at invoice and I sent my friend to the same dealer and he got it at invoice too. One thing to think about is the trade in value. They can always give you invoice then low ball you on the trade value, or raise the interest rate of you finance through them.
 
So even if you do get invoice, you may still get screwed by the other parts of the transaction. I feel good about mine because I saw my car on the lot for less that $3k more than what I traded it in for which also included an extended warranty.
 
If there is more than one Audi dealer in your town I would shop it. I went to another dealer first that was closer to my house and they were totally playing games with me and I left and struck a deal at the other dealer.

#1912 of 2051 Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus by samdc

Jun 28, 2012 (1:47 pm)

I'm buying it from a mitsubishi dealership this weekend, I've done some comparison shopping and now need some pro advice.
 
Black over Black
Quattro
Prem Plus (no nav or camera)
brand new tires
coming off a commercial lease.
18000miles
$26,990 ask.
 
I have a trade-in which should be worth $1000 but they sound like I could get $2000.
 
With negotiations and my trade in, I'm hoping to walk away paying around $22,000. I will stress that I need to certify it etc.
 
Does $22,000 sound about right?

#1914 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [samdc] by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST

Jun 28, 2012 (1:52 pm)

Replying to: samdc (Jun 28, 2012 1:47 pm)
A Mitsu dealer can't "certify" an Audi.
 
They could sell you a 3rd-party extended warranty, but that's about it..

#1915 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [kyfdx] by samdc

Jun 28, 2012 (1:57 pm)

Replying to: kyfdx@Edmunds (Jun 28, 2012 1:52 pm)
Thanks for the reply, I should have said above "I plan to certify it"....thus I will need to spend more money is my schtick with the salesman. I know they will not certify it....
 
KBB has it valued at $26,080.

#1916 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [samdc] by jnyz

Jun 28, 2012 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: samdc (Jun 28, 2012 1:57 pm)
Is the KBB value wholesale or retail value?

#1917 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [jnyz] by samdc

Jun 28, 2012 (2:44 pm)

Replying to: jnyz (Jun 28, 2012 2:38 pm)
Suggested Retail....

#1918 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [samdc] by escortowner

Jun 28, 2012 (2:47 pm)

Replying to: samdc (Jun 28, 2012 1:47 pm)
What year is the car? If it's a 2009 I think it is too high.
 
Also, it's just a terminology thing but you won't actually get the vehicle "Certified", but the best you can do is get a 3rd party Warranty. In my honest opinion, for the Warranty I would stick with going to your local Audi dealership and get their Audi Pure Protection Warranty. It is administered by Fidelity Warranty, but realistically it has Audi's brochures, letterhead and such. So if you ever get into a situation where they are balking at it you will have the strongest case for coverage.
 
Also, I bought one of these and it worked great. I had about $10,000 in repairs made in my car over a 6-month period and they covered everything but my deductible without question. Finally I got tired of all the repairs so I sold my car to another Audi Dealership and cancelled my warranty. I got a check back for the prorated remaining value. So, my experience was great.
 
In fact, I bought my warranty over the internet from a guy named Troy Dietrich and when I cancelled I gave all the right stuff and his dealership sent me a check within 10-days.
 
My advice is on an Audi, always be under warranty and make sure it is the best one. I had my amplifier replaced and it was $2,000. So, get the Platinum coverage. Be warrned, the cost of the warranty will be between $3,500 - $4,000 depending on the age and mileage etc.
 
Finally, when you get a warranty you must know that since it is not throuh the dealership at purchase it starts right away. So if the car has 18,000 miles on it save up for the warranty until you reach the mileage or original in service date and get it right before. I got mine when I had 14-miles left on my warranty.
 
EG - if you get a 48,000 mile warranty, you are really only getting a 16,000 mile warranty because up to 50,000 you are covered.
 
Now that I am done with my warranty lecture,
 
Why wouldn't you look for a similar car at the Audi Dealership? you will be able to get the best total package that way likely.
 
Finally (this is my opinion) - look at the total package deal. Many say to get the purchase price of the car first, then negotiate the trade in value. That's probably reasonable, but I would say know what you can get for your trade on the street, and look at the total combination between the trade and sales price of the car. If they say they will give you $2k for your trade, they will likely come back and say they can't lower the price because they are giving too much for your trade in.
 
If the car is a lease turn in, then there was a pre-set buy back price. Im not sure how it works when it isn't back to an Audi dealership, but that value is probably really close to what they paid for it in the trade in. Take a look at other forums and see if you can find the residual value.
 
If it was a 3-year lease on an A4 it is probably something like 50-55%, if it was a 2-year lease it may have been 60 - 65% of the original value. so take a look and see.
 
Way too long I know.

#1919 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [escortowner] by samdc

Jun 28, 2012 (3:06 pm)

Replying to: escortowner (Jun 28, 2012 2:47 pm)
Great information, thanks. Here are the specs on the 2009 A4 2.0T again:
Black over Black
Quattro
Prem Plus (everything but no nav or camera)
brand new tires
coming off a commercial lease.
18,000miles
$26,990 asking price.
  
 Again, I have a trade-in which should be worth $1000 on the street but audi alexandria (va) yesterday told me I could get $2000. I will negotiate that after I negotiate the price as I have not even talked trade in value with this mitsubishi dealership yet.
  
 So with negotiations + my trade in, I'm hoping to walk away paying around $22,000.
  
 Does $22,000 sound about right? without taxes, title, reg?
 
I am going to tell the guy (as a barganing chip) I NEED to certify it with a 3rd party or direct with Audi as you mentioned...may help this go even lower.
 
Thanks alot everyone.

#1920 of 2051 Re: Buying an A4 2.0T prem plus [samdc] by colin_l

Jun 28, 2012 (7:18 pm)

Replying to: samdc (Jun 28, 2012 3:06 pm)
I am going to tell the guy (as a barganing chip) I NEED to certify it with a 3rd party or direct with Audi as you mentioned...may help this go even lower.
 
only an Audi dealer can qualify the vehicle as Certified Pre-Owned, which has a series of benefits you can read about on Audiusa.com.
 
the price you are being quoted would be a great price for CPO, but it's average to high for a normal used car. (18k miles for a used car is exceptional, and often only seen on leased vehicles.) CPO tags on $2k-3k due to the warranty, roadside assistance, and typically replaced items such as tires, floormats and brake pads.
 
as noted several messages back I just bought a CPO 2009 A4 Avant, but there are a lot fewer of them in supply than the A4 Sedan, and msrp was lower to begin with.

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