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Audi A4, Sedan
#1876 of 2051 Audi loyalty - invoice
Jan 11, 2012 (8:23 pm)
I saw many of the members suggest ask for invoice for an A4. Does this include Audi Loyalty or I should ask for invoice then minus $1000 loyalty?
Thanks in advance,
Jan 26, 2012 (11:01 pm)
I have my eye on a '12 A4 quattro Premium with style/convenience packages and heated seats, with a couple smaller options.
The dealer's price is $37,055. Edmunds' TMV is $37,206 -- more than the list price, you'll notice -- to go along with a $36,386-or-less "great price" from TrueCar and a $36,233 target price from ZAG. The invoice prices, according to these websites, also are inconsistent: Edmunds and ZAG list the invoice at $35,733, and TrueCar lists the dealer cost at $36,115.
So I'm a little confused as I begin negotiations. I would obviously like to buy the car for as little as possible, while also being fair to the dealer and not offering an unreasonable amount. My thought is to offer $36,233 OTD, which according to ZAG is $500 more than invoice, or offering $36,733 OTD with Audi Care thrown in. That would essentially get Audi Care for $500. I wouldn't qualify for loyalty incentives or any of that.
What are your thoughts on this? Should I go lower and just offer the damn invoice price? Less? What's got me confused most, I think, is that there's really not that much distance between the invoice and the dealer's list price -- something like $700-800, depending on the valuation service. I guess I'm a little surprised the dealer priced this car so close to invoice, and it makes me wonder that, with this price, maybe the dealer would be willing to go below invoice if list price assumes (or presumably assumes) there's some wiggle room.
Many thanks for the help. Looking forward to joining the Audi family.
Jan 27, 2012 (8:21 am)
I think you are adding something when you are building the car on Edmunds and Zag. Ask the dealer to email you the build sheet and go from there. I think you are adding the wheel option. When you're figuring out the price, the MSRP should match the build sheet or window sticker exactly. There should be around a 3k difference in MSRP and invoice. Remember the stealership does not pay invoice for the car. They pay less. I would offer less than invoice and not opt for Audi Care.
Feb 02, 2012 (11:01 am)
Wondering if you could give me some advice please? Looking to buy '09 A4 Avant Prem. with 22,300 miles. We'd be trading in my wife's '02 Honda Civic, auto, moon roof, spoiler, and it's clean with 112,000 miles. The stealer's asking $31,995 for the A4 wagon; what should I be trying to get for the civic and what should I shoot for on the A4? I appreciate your help!
#1880 of 2051 2012 auto A4 with quattro
Apr 25, 2012 (1:17 pm)
We are planning to buy 2012 auto A4 with quattro with conveince packag, front heated seat . In Phat black and black interior. If any one got A4, please provide your experience.
#1881 of 2051 2012 A4 Premium
May 01, 2012 (1:15 pm)
first post, first time buying an Audi. looking for experts' opinions. current deal with dealer is for 2012 A4 Premium Black on Black with convenience and style packages, heated seats, splash guards, wheel locks, and all weather mats with trunk liner. Offer is $37,150 including tax and registration/title. Advertising, dealer prep and dealer doc fees were waived. Could I have pushed for much lower? Also considering adding the Audi Care. Opinions on that are hot or cold.
#1882 of 2051 Re: 2012 A4 Premium [tsfanboy]
May 01, 2012 (5:17 pm)
Depends what the sticker price is?
#1883 of 2051 Re: 2012 A4 Premium [jnyz]
May 01, 2012 (6:33 pm)
sticker price is $38,345 but that doesn't include the mats & liner which is another $250. so technically it's $38,595.
#1884 of 2051 Re: 2012 A4 Premium [tsfanboy]
May 02, 2012 (5:26 pm)
Also forgot to mention it's a quattro.
#1885 of 2051 2012 A4 Quattro Premium Plus
May 17, 2012 (7:28 pm)
I just got a offered $38,690 for a A4 - Quattro - Premium Plus in Monsoon Gray with Advanced Key and Mats. MSRP $41,090. $2,400 off MSRP. Also got financing at 2.5% for 60 months. Hope thats a good deal.
P.S. PNC has a cool Auto Loan program. I used it for comparison and the dealership matched it.