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Audi A4, Sedan
#1747 of 2044 Re: Premium Plus, with Nav [ohnims2]
Jan 30, 2011 (7:42 am)
That is not true everywhere. Where I live, the dealer will discount 3% off list only. You want any more, he won't sell you a car. Kind of bull-headed, but it seems to work for him. He still has a brand new 2009 A4 that he has discounted a bit more than that, but he would rather hold onto it, and maybe eventually lease it to someone, than cut his prices. He has recently leased a "new" several years old TT for two years. When he takes it back in, he can lease it again (or sell it). The next closest Audi dealer will discount a bit more, but nothing close to $100 above invoice.
I could get a better deal by going to a metro area like Minneapolis/St Paul, but then I have the hassle of buying from someone over 2 hours away. Sometimes you pay a bit more for convenience. And you know that those $100 over invoice cars are also going to bring less at trade-in at these stores.
If the dealer is not chasing after you when you reject the "bottom line" deal, he may not need to sell you a car at a loss to him. You need to then decide how much you really want the car, and/or how much you are willing to pester him back. Or move to the east coast!
#1748 of 2044 Re: Premium Plus, with Nav [ohnims2]
Jan 30, 2011 (8:11 am)
Thanks ohnims2. I'll try to bring the price down. Any other thoughts or suggestions on how I can do that
#1749 of 2044 Re: 2011 A4 FWD premium OTD price [knshanhan]
Jan 30, 2011 (10:14 am)
I'm in California too, but bay area, so do get a fair amount of rain. And of course snow in Tahoe.
From my understanding, the quattro handles better than the FWD even on dry surfaces and makes the driving experience more on par with rear wheel drive BMW's and others. It's what Audi is known for.
Nothing wrong with FWD cars. And I can understand your reasoning of not getting AWD.
#1750 of 2044 Re: Premium Plus, with Nav [gregg_vw]
Jan 30, 2011 (1:34 pm)
That's why there is a sentence that says "I don't know where you are", meaning things can be different depending on where you live,
but wanted to give him/her a heads up since I got my car at $100 over invoice.
I don't understand what to make of your post, because I didn't have to hassle much to get $100 above invoice from the dealer that is located the closest from where I live. I didn't have a trade-in, so I didn't go over than $100 as you claimed before.
Different dealers, even in the same dealership, have different tactics, let alone different areas of the country.
The last part of your post I'd have to agree with you. Rarely do dealers call you back after you reject the so-called "final offer", so you'd have to think if you really want the car; when you call in, you lose the leverage.
#1751 of 2044 Re: 2011 A4 FWD premium OTD price [gregg_vw]
Jan 30, 2011 (1:43 pm)
When you say less expensive than the corresponding BMW or Mercedes, you might be little bit off there.
BMW's and Mercedes' do have higher sticker prices--so you are right in that sense, but when it comes down to 'prices paid', I didn't find Audi's less expensive due to their stingy discounts.
For example, at the end of the model year, I've seen the dealer giving out about 20% off of the sticker price on a C-class. But for an Audi, I was able to get a mere 5% off a sticker.
Typically, when you walk into get a C-class, the dealers are willing to give you about 10% discount right from the get go.
#1752 of 2044 Re: 2011 A4 FWD premium OTD price [ohnims2]
Jan 30, 2011 (1:48 pm)
You may be right about C Class transaction prices, but 20% off doesn't happen as easily around here. The BMW 3 series usually commands a bit more than the corresponding C Class as well. The FWD Audi A4 tends to be discounted more than the AWD version is.
#1753 of 2044 Leases..
by kyfdx HOST
Jan 30, 2011 (1:52 pm)
I think Audi loses any price advantage, once the buyer decides on leasing... at least in comparison with BMW.. BMW seems to stick more of their incentives on the leasing side (though not as much as in the past).
#1754 of 2044 Re: Leases.. [kyfdx]
Jan 31, 2011 (7:39 pm)
I'd have to agree with you on this matter. Also, when I was doing my research, a 3 series came out little bit cheaper than an A4, due to their better incentives and better financing rates.
When it came to similarily equipped C-class, the sticker was much higher than the A4. When I looked at a C-class, that was last september when the 2011 models were rolling in, so they were willing to give 20% discount off the sticker price. But even now, I know the dealers are willing to give 15% off the sticker on a 2011 model even before any negotiation.
Also, Mercedes again offers better fianancing rates too, compared to Audi.
As of now, I know Mercedes if offering 1.9% for 24-36 months, whereas Audi only has 3.9% for 36 months.
The reason I decided to get an A4 over the 3 series or the c-class is because
1)loyalty discount, and
2)3 series and C-class are getting a facelift for their 2012 model years.
But yea, Audi definitely loses its price advantage.
#1755 of 2044 Re: 2011 A4 FWD premium OTD price [gregg_vw]
Jan 31, 2011 (7:52 pm)
Yes, I have to say too, the 3 series usually does command a bit more than the C-class.
And as for the C class transaction prices, I've seen people getting as much as 25% off when the new model years were rolling in. At other times, I see people get at least 10% and most get at least 15% to 20%.
As for the FWD A4, I don't know the amount of discount, because I haven't seen a single Audi without the AWD on it.
#1756 of 2044 Re: Premium Plus, with Nav [ohnims2]
Feb 01, 2011 (11:03 am)
Can you tell me which dealer you got the car from? I am looking to buy pretty much the same car (Premium plus with Nav and B&O) and am in the NYC metro area.