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1537 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM
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Hi I am trying to buy an A4 in California with taxes at 9.25%. The price they quoted was $29999 but out the door with taxes and fees about $34k. Checking edmunds.com and truecars.com for the car I am looking for with minimal options, the average price people are buy the car for is a little less than 30K. Does anyone know if this is the out the door pricing? is it ridiculous for me to start my negotiations at 29k when they are starting at 34k? here are the details of the car A4 2.0T CVT 09 Brilliant Black Bluetooth Audio interface. thanks for any advice! |
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Replying to: bear_4_life (Jun 04, 2009 9:20 am) I am looking to buy an A4 09 in California within the next week. I am looking at a base model A4 2.0 frontwheel drive. Several dealers have contacted me with a car that meets my description. They initally said 30k but are now quoting me out the door around 34k. according to edmunds and truecar, the average price paid for a similar car was somewhere around 30,500k. How did you manage to get such an amazing deal on your car. Would it be ridiculous to start my negotiations at 29k. I am a first time car buyer and am sorta scared by this process. the car i am looking at is 09 A4 2.0t CVT, brilliant black, bluetooth, and audio interface. really minimal package. PLEASE HELP ME.
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Replying to: s0l0 (Jun 11, 2009 11:02 am) As far as a dealer I assume that you are not allowed to reccomend anyone on through this forum? If anyone can reccomend one via email that would be cool. I also should say that I have no reason to think that the dealer who let me drive one of their vehicles is not the one to go to but I just have no idea and the only source on the web with dealer ratings basically has very little to go on for Long Island Audi dealers. Thanks for your help. My email is robchris91259 |
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Replying to: gigg1es (Jun 11, 2009 12:44 pm) Remember that there are a lot of numbers dealers can throw at you. Important ones to note are MSRP, Dealer Invoice (which is what they say they got the car from the manufacturer for but not really), Dealer Cost (which is the true mystery in the whole process). These should all reflect before TTL (Tax, Title and License fees since these will vary from state to state), but include destination fees (about $825). OTD (Out the Door) is literally what you will pay bottom line for the car. I'll be quite frank, I think the TMV (True Market Value) quoted in Edmunds and other online resources are currently high and dealers are willing to go well below the Dealer Invoice price. My Dealer Invoice with all the options was $38,500 and I got the car for $36,000 before TTL. Edmunds TMV currently shows $37,500. My OTD was just north of $40K and includes the chunk of tax amounting to nearly $3,600 going to the Governator. The MSRP shows $40,150 on the actual sticker. NOTE: my price was BEFORE my Conquest cash back of $1,000 and them paying the first two payments (valued at $2,400). I'm assuming your car is showing: MSRP $32,600 Dealer Invoice $30,400 TMV $30,500 My advice: 1) give them a low price even lower than the $29K you are thinking of...$27K, $28K. I don't think this is ridiculous particularly when you say several dealers have contacted you about the exact car. If you have a good friend who's been thru the process, bring them along to keep you level headed. At $28K + TTL, you should be OTD at just around $30-31K. 2) wait if possible. Do you really need this car ASAP? They are more willing to sell a car / make a deal near the end of the month to make sales figures...if you wait a couple weeks , they may be more willing to give in to your offer. 3) I assume you are financing this...are they offering to pay for any payments? See if there are manufacturer incentives which can help since it doesn't come out of the Dealers pocket. 4) See how many other dealers have the same car and work them off each other. I had 3 dealers basically trying to get my business. 2 had the exact car I wanted and the first quoted me at over $39K + TTL. It took me 2 weeks to get 2 of the dealers down to $36K + TTL. They even thew in some accessories to sweeten the deal in the end. I signed the deal just before May 31. 5) be willing to walk away from a Dealer if you feel they are trying to play games with you or if you don't feel that you are getting what you ask for. I have to admit that my starting point was very easy. One of the local dealers had a "Garage Sale" for a few days with completely ridiculous deals. I missed it but leveraged that info to basically let the dealers know that I knew they could make some great deals and showed it to them. This was the third new car I've bought in my life (Honda, Acura now Audi) and each time, I feel I could've gotten a better deal. Saying that, your initial feeling sounds like it may hold you back from getting a killer deal. I've had dealers show me the Dealer Invoice and say, "I can't go below that since this is what I paid for it" and a week later, they're willing to sell for $2,000 under that figure. Where are you in CA? NorCal or SoCal? Let me know how I can get you some info. Bear |
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Replying to: gigg1es (Jun 11, 2009 12:44 pm) 1) Set a price point that you will not compromise, e.g. $1500 below invoice before rebates and/or 2 payments by Audi 2) Do everything online until you get someone to agree to the price you want, do NOT go to the dealer before that 3) Make sure the price includes all dealer fees, e.g. documentation/prep fees before you go to the dealer 4) You must be prepared to not to get the deal you want, but be firm and walk if need be 5) Wait till the end of the month before committing to any deal |
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Hi all, I finally bought a prestige model for $38,200. It is $1,000 less than the invoice price the dealer showed. I I guess I did okay in negotiating. The salesman too gotta make some money in this transaction, right? |
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Where did you find all the incentives available? Audi doesn't list them on their website.
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Replying to: montrota (Jun 15, 2009 6:02 am) |
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Replying to: smith219 (May 28, 2009 10:32 am) |
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Hi, My 30 month lease was up at the end of May which I extended a month. The buyout price is 23.6k, the dealer offered to throw in a 2 year extended. I was allotted 30k in mileage but the car only has 16k miles on it. The sticker price is $34.3k which includes the premium package. I've been trying to find a good used car to replace it but am I overlooking a potential deal here? Audi Financial said it would give me a $2200 credit card but not sure if this would in conjunction with the extended warranty or not. Any advice much appreciated! Thank you |
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