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1531 messages, Last post on Nov 05, 2009 at 11:48 PM
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How many of you are getting this car for under invoice? Also, when you say that you got it under invoice (i.e. $500 under), do you still have to pay some kind of dealership advertising/prep fees? I am getting quotes of around $400-500 over invoice with dealer fees of around $500 (varying slightly by dealer) here in Colorado. Could I really save $1000 and go from $500 OVER invoice to $500 UNDER? What about the dealer fees? Thanks guys!
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Replying to: jkozlow3 (Nov 07, 2008 5:36 pm) |
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to recap: 500 off inovice in seatle 500 off invoice in San jose 800 off invoice in NE penn invoice flat for northern nj for us AND probably could have pushed them a little more based on a subsequent conversation with the sales guy. i did get an additional $500 from audi for doing the audi driving experience and will get $500 from ACNA so in the end it was not horrible. the deals maybe better on the coasts than in colorodo. Strikes me as the dealers are either being motivated by inventory or audi (especially on leases?) to make much better deals than just a short while ago. which factor is the key to know how hard push and also hard to know if prices will fall even more. my guess is that sales price may get better but lease deals will shift as well so payments will remain essentially flat from this point on. |
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Replying to: vkj (Nov 08, 2008 8:43 am) Did you have to pay any dealer fees (advertising, prep, etc)? When you say invoice flat, do you mean the Edmunds invoice price? One dealer showed me an invoice in which his invoice reflected advertising and prep fees, making it roughly $400 higher than the invoice price listed on Edmunds. Thanks.
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Replying to: vkj (Nov 08, 2008 8:43 am) |
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Replying to: jkozlow3 (Nov 08, 2008 10:06 am) |
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Replying to: vkj (Nov 08, 2008 8:43 am) The 3.2 I ordered should be ready for pick up Nov 17th, and I still don't feel like I've got a clue about what I should reasonably expect to pay in relation to MSRP. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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I just signed a deal yesterday. Some background: Dealer A: Sales manager came down to $500 below national invoice/destination as listed on Edmunds for a Premium Plus he had on the lot. All dealers in Colorado charge non-negotiable dealer fees of $400-500, as they all claim that their invoice is $380 higher than the national numbers due to advertising fees, etc. I have seen copies of invoices from 2 dealers reflecting this. Total cap cost with dealer fees (before lease acquisition fees) came to right around the national invoice. Note that this car did not have any dealer installed accessories such as clear bra, etc (which many in my area seem to). Dealer B: I had previously been working with the sales manager from this dealer and when I emailed him the deal from dealer A, he said that he could not beat it. He did not have the car I wanted (not the right color) on his lot and said that by the time he obtained it from another dealer (which apparently costs some money) that it would not be a profitable enough deal for him. This guy was very nice/easy to deal with and said to let him know if the deal fell through for some reason. At this point I knew I could not do much better on price. Dealer C (my local dealer): I went down there yesterday before committing to buy from dealer A just to make sure I liked the car in silver. I gave the sales manager the cap cost I'd been quoted from dealer A. He beat it by $200. I then told him that the silver model on the lot that I wanted already had a clear bra on it (seems that every car on their lot did) and that I was not interested in paying for a clear bra. He said: then you get it for free. So total cap cost (before lease acquisition fees) came to around $200 below national invoice ($600 below the supposed Colorado invoice) after dealer fees, including a free clear bra. I thought this was pretty fair considering dealer B couldn't beat dealer A's price which was $200 more than I ended up paying in the end ($300+ more if you account for dealer cost on the bra). Oh, and I leased the car. Dealer B had originally told me that he is definitely expecting more attractive lease numbers come Novemeber 12 based on info he's obtained from his factory reps (he volunteered this info and told me I may want to wait until then). All of these dealers agreed to not push the paperwork through until the 12th, allowing me to rework the paperwork if the new program is more favorable. So I will be touching base with the dealer I purchased from on the 12th. Hope this helps. All of my original negotiation was done by calling 5 dealers in Colorado and asking for the sales manager. I had an email drafted explaining what I was looking for and what I expected to pay. In the second round of emails, I started making up prices I'd been quoted based on what I'd read here, as the dealers were not coming down in price fast enough.
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Dealership told me $1000 off MSRP in July when they didn't order the car I put deposit on in April (see previous posts), '09 A4 3.2 Premium Plus w/ nav. When I inquired about discount since deposit was paid in April, car expected 75-80 days, and at 120 days out, car is still not here, I was told: "I have confirmed with management and yes, the $1000 discount that was originally offered to you is the same $1000 that I mentioned in my previous email. To avoid confusion there will not be a $2K discount on the car. I hope you understand that this is a considerable discount for the type of car that you ordered." Only 3 Audi dealers in the state, and if I get the car from another dealership, I was told by AudiUSA that the local dealership was "supposed" to service the car but they did not have to provide me a free loaner car, etc. I'm not willing to pay a luxury car price w/out the luxury car service. Any suggestions/ideas would be greatly appreciated. Please note that the availability of 3.2s is nowhere near what it is w/ the 2.0s. Thanks.
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Replying to: kduda1 (Nov 13, 2008 7:39 pm) A 2.0 Premium Plus with Nav at invoice (easily attainable) is $37ish. A 3.2 Premium Plus with Nav at $1000 below MSRP is $42ish. Only you can decide if the $5k price difference is worth it. 1/2 second faster 0-60, slightly smoother engine and 3mpg WORSE fuel economy isn't worth 5 grand to me, but it's up to you. Drive the 2.0t - I think you'll find it surprisingly nice. Better yet, skip the Audi's crappy navigation system and pick up a portable for a couple hundred bucks. That'll save you another $2500. Audi dealers tend to not stock many cars with nav systems anyway (again, for good reason). There...I just saved you $7000. |
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