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#682 of 3871 In case you missed it (and other thoughts). by majorthomecho

Sep 22, 2001 (9:45 am)

Iluv, I posted this question before, but you were evidently gone on a vacation so I will ask again. What do you think about Hyundai which owns Kia (that great leader of car design) "basing" the looks of the next gen Tiburon (the one due to be sold as a 2003) on old Toyota sporty cars (the Supra and the Celica)?

I will report what my roommate's sister thinks about her Rio.

In terms of customer service, things are not starting off on the right foot. The sister got a ride to work because the car dealership was going to bring the car to her. They did not do that.

Since they did not do what they promised and since she could not get there before the dealership closed, they wanted to leave the car on the lot with the keys in it and the doors unlocked.

My roommate and I ended up going to pick her up from work.

As far as you trading your car in, it is a good thing you want another Kia. You will probably get more out of it that way.

Want to do us a favor? Post a message over in Smart Shopper under the real world trade in values thread and ask the dealers in there what the trade in value of your Sephia is. Be sure to tell them the color, mileage, and where you live in addition to model year and condition. Thanks.

Regarding warranties. If you have a warranty, I think you should be able to use it without hassle. But, I am also money oriented and value my time. I do not like having to take off (even if I still get paid) to get things done on a car. I would rather have a car with a short warranty that I am likely not to make much use of the warranty than a car with a longer warranty that I am going to use more.

#683 of 3871 Why the sister chose Kia by majorthomecho

Sep 22, 2001 (9:53 am)

In talking with the new Rio owner, I learned why she chose Kia. Number one was that she could not get approved (on good terms) for a car from a more reliable, higher quality car company. Given that Kia "got" her 14% money, the mind boggles at what kind of interest rate the other dealers were "getting" her.

She had not checked with Hyundai yet which leads me to reason number two. The Kia dealership she went with put out an ad that she noticed.

She put down $500 and the car came with a $950 cash rebate which she also applied to the price of the car.

Does anyone know how to take off dealer badging? The dealership puts on a sticker that is actually larger than the area covered by the Rio name.

I never liked dealer badging, but that is overkill to the extreme.

#684 of 3871 Re dealer badging by backy

Sep 22, 2001 (11:17 am)

I agree, the dealer badging stinks. I try to catch it before they put it on and tell them not to do it, and every time the dealers have respected my request. Maybe one reason is that I've told them I would need to charge them an advertising fee if they insisted on putting their name on my car. A few times the badge was already on the car, and when it was a quality badge and unobtrusive I left it on. Some dealers have good-looking badges that are carefully placed and actually have the same style as the manufacturer's nameplate. My favorite is one from a local dealer, Hopkins Honda, that just sticks the word "Hopkins" above the "Honda" plate, and the style is exactly the same so it looks like a factory badge. But some of them are really ugly and cheap-looking and stick out like a sore thumb. Some dealers are considerate and use no badging or just use a rear license plate frame with their name on it, which is easily removable.

Re how to remove them, it depends on how they are applied. If they are self-stick appliques or other glue-on badges, one method is to take a hair dryer on low and soften the adhesive until you can carefully peel the badge off. The sooner you do this, the better. I've been able to pull off plastic badges from a newly-delivered car even without the hair dryer.

#685 of 3871 Badges by majorthomecho

Sep 22, 2001 (11:42 am)

Yes, the badging is the plastic applique kind. I still find that objectionable, but preferable to the metal nameplate that is not as prevalent now as when I was growing up.

As much as I dislike badging, I left the badging of my dealer on. It was unobtrusive.

#686 of 3871 Mr.major, regarding the new Tuscani(2002 Tiburon).... by iluvmysephia1

Sep 22, 2001 (12:42 pm)

it's very common throughout the car industry to copy parts of cars on newly designed models. I think Hyundai has done a great job with this Tuscani's design. Yes, there's similarities but a keen eye will see differences. For instance the hood slope and quarterpanels up from are different. Actually, Kia has made a concept car that can be seen on their Global website(the name escapes me)that's a sporty model I like a lot better than Tuscani. It doesn't matter to me, my interest is in the Kia Spectra 4-door sedan, the Rio Cinco wagon and Kia Spectra hatchback.

#687 of 3871 RE: Mr Major by majorthomecho

Sep 22, 2001 (7:41 pm)

Iluv, for someone who gets inside information about Kia (and presumably Hyundai) there sure is a big error in your post. Specifically the title of your last post.

The next generation Tiburon is not a 2002 model. The 2002 model still looks like the 2001 model. The 2003 model is the one that looks like a Supra or Celica of the past.

There is a guy named Brannon over on AOL. You two should meet. He might be an even bigger Kia and Hyundai booster than you are. He also shares another trait with you. You both seem to be critical of other car companies doing something, but if Kia and Hyundai do the same thing (or something similar), it becomes all right. And you gloss over the fact that you objected or accused the other car company of doing what you are now saying is all right for Hyundai and Kia to do.

But that is all right, I expect no less from you two.

In closing, I will have to say one thing about you as opposed to Brannon. At least you own the car you are touting. Brannon does not.

#688 of 3871 Mr.major-other car companies can do what they want......... by iluvmysephia1

Sep 22, 2001 (9:53 pm)

I've found a car company that I know will provide me with what I want. I don't like to be ripped off. Toyota rips a person off. That doesn't cut it with this consumer. Nuff said.

#689 of 3871 Hmmmm by coolguyky7

Sep 22, 2001 (9:54 pm)

Yes it is a 2003 Tiburon and yes, it looks like an old Supra. And...doesn't time have some value? If one has a Kia 6 years from now and it's falling apart...sure the repair is free...but what about that wasted time? And who is to say Hyundai will exist 10 years from now?

#690 of 3871 Tell me another funny one, cooldude........ by iluvmysephia1

Sep 22, 2001 (11:29 pm)

Hyundai and Kia are gaining American fans every day. They'll both be around 10 years from now-I guarantee it. Toyota will continue to be around. With what they're overcharging people(and people gladly give it up)they're assured of a long existence. You can have them.

#691 of 3871 Hmmm by coolguyky7

Sep 23, 2001 (4:12 pm)

I've always heard the expression time is money. So you don't reject the idea that a Kia owner would have to go to the shop more often than a Toyota owner around 8 years of ownership of a car? Thank you, you have proved my point. And if you don't mind iluv, what age are you?

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