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#3766 of 3820 Re: micweb has tried foreign makes... [micweb] by alpha01 Jan 12, 2007 (8:47 am)
Replying to: micweb (Dec 26, 2006 10:08 am) I don't know if we are reading the same Consumer Reports, but IIRC, both the xA and xB Scions rate quite lowly, with a whole heap of cars above them. And the Yaris models were rated lowly for tail-happy handling, lack of class-expected interior flexibility, lack of standard safety features, and the stupid center mounted instrumentation.   This may change, though, with the introduction of the new Scion xA and xB replacements. Production of the current xA and xB, if I read correctly, has already ceased.   Consumer Reports already tested the Caliber and gave it a mixed review, which is consistent all the reviews on the vehicle that I've seen.   "The Caliber is pleasant and has some inventive features, but it is outclassed by similar vehicles. Its ride is comfortable, and the continuously variable transmission (CVT) works well. But the car lacks responsive acceleration or agile handling. The interior has poorly finished materials."   ~alpha Replies to this message: brucepadgett (Jan 12, 2007 7:23 pm)
#3767 of 3820 Re: micweb has tried foreign makes... [alpha01] by brucepadgett Jan 12, 2007 (7:23 pm)
Replying to: alpha01 (Jan 12, 2007 8:47 am) What is "tail-happy handling"? Thanks.
#3772 of 3820 tail swings out in evasive manuevers by alpha01 Jan 15, 2007 (5:51 pm)
moreso than one would expect, or want to deal with in emergency situations. Also called oversteer.   ~alpha
#3773 of 3820 From the archives... by backy Dec 24, 2007 (7:18 pm)
... but updated with current models, based on a post here from five years (!) ago. Posted for the current "generation" of contributors. (Alas, so few of us from five years ago are still around today...)   (If anyone may be offended by a tribute to a classic seasonal poem, they should skip this post.)   T'was the night before Christmas, and all through the 'Hall few members were posting--were they still at the mall? The driveway was plowed with the greatest of care in hopes that new wheels may soon be parked there.    The drivers were nestled all snug in their beds while visions of low-end cars danced in their heads. My sweetie in her driving gloves, and I in my cap, had just settled down for a long winter's nap.    When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter, I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter. Away to the window I flew like a flash, Tore open the mini-blinds and threw up the sash.    The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow Gave the lustre of mid-day to objects below, When, what with my eyes should I see 'neath the stars, But a miniature sleigh, and eight low-end cars!    With a little old driver, so lively and quick, I knew in a moment it must be St. Nick. More rapid than eagles his small cars they came, And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;    "Now, CIVIC! now, LANCER! now, FOCUS and SPECTRA! On, ACCENT! on VERSA! on, YARIS and SENTRA! To the front of the house! zoom right up to the wall! Now dash away! dash away! dash away all!"    As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky, So on to my driveway the vehicles they flew, With the sleigh full of cars, and St. Nicholas too.    And then, I could hear from a distance not far, The revving and humming of each little car. As I drew in my hand, and was turning around, Down the chimney St. Nicholas came with a bound.    He was dressed all in fur, from his head to his foot, And his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot; A bundle of keys he held at his side, And he looked like a dealer, ready for a test-ride.    His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry! His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry! His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow, And the beard of his chin was as white as the snow;    The stump of a pipe he held tight in his teeth, And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath; He had a broad face and a little round belly, That shook, when he laughed like a bowlful of jelly.    He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf, And I laughed when I saw him, in spite of myself; A wink of his eye and a twist of his head, Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread;    He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, And filled all the stockings; then turned with a jerk, And laying his finger aside of his nose, And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;    He sprang to his sleigh, to his cars gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But I saw out my window, as he drove out of sight, A new low-end car on my drive--IT WAS MY LUCKY NIGHT! Replies to this message: pat (Dec 24, 2007 7:24 pm) pat (Dec 24, 2007 7:26 pm) backy (Dec 24, 2007 7:53 pm) pat (Dec 25, 2007 5:36 pm)
#3774 of 3820 Re: From the archives... [backy] by pat HOST Dec 24, 2007 (7:24 pm)
Replying to: backy (Dec 24, 2007 7:18 pm) Thanks backy - that was fun and a nice memory.   Merry Christmas everyone!!
#3775 of 3820 Re: From the archives... [backy] by pat HOST Dec 24, 2007 (7:26 pm)
Replying to: backy (Dec 24, 2007 7:18 pm) P.S. Where did you find that? The archives have been missing for a couple of years! (They actually may be on their way back, but haven't made it yet.) Replies to this message: backy (Dec 24, 2007 7:53 pm) pat (Dec 25, 2007 5:36 pm)

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