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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [micweb] by bobw3
Dec 25, 2006 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 25, 2006 4:11 pm)

Good LUCK...ever try a foreign make, or do you just drive Dodge?
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micweb has tried foreign makes... by iluvmysephia1
Dec 26, 2006 (9:41 am)
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because he once drove a Scion xA. His reports on that experience can be found in the Scion xA thread here on Edmunds.
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Re: micweb has tried foreign makes... [iluvmysephia1] by micweb
Dec 26, 2006 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Dec 26, 2006 9:41 am)

And also a 2003 Honda Civic coupe, plus two VW Golfs (2001 and 2004), and an Echo.
 
The Focii I had, except for the first, were remarkably defect free, as was the second Golf. The Cobalt I have has 3 defects, nothing major, the new Caliber has 2 defects so far (trim panel rattle, and 10% failure to latch on first slam on the driver's door). It will be interesting to see how Consumer Reports rates the Caliber. They rated the Cobalt lower than I would have, and the Honda and Scion higher (Honda one defect, trim rattle in right C pillar, Scion had an aircon damper problem plus one other minor issue). The Echo had four defects.
 
Toyota and Honda definitely jump on minor issues better than other makes. Chevy dealers almost dare you to come back until the defect is loud and/or obvious. But all in all the much lower prices on domestics make up for the slight variance in quality. Plus there are feature sets to consider....
 
(The only "serious" mechanical defect I've had on an American car was a slight whirring from a front wheel bearing once. On my first Golf the ECM started going quirky on me at 40k miles.)
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Re: micweb has tried foreign makes... [micweb] by alpha01
Jan 12, 2007 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 26, 2006 10:08 am)

I don't know if we are reading the same Consumer Reports, but IIRC, both the xA and xB Scions rate quite lowly, with a whole heap of cars above them. And the Yaris models were rated lowly for tail-happy handling, lack of class-expected interior flexibility, lack of standard safety features, and the stupid center mounted instrumentation.
 
This may change, though, with the introduction of the new Scion xA and xB replacements. Production of the current xA and xB, if I read correctly, has already ceased.
 
Consumer Reports already tested the Caliber and gave it a mixed review, which is consistent all the reviews on the vehicle that I've seen.
 
"The Caliber is pleasant and has some inventive features, but it is outclassed by similar vehicles. Its ride is comfortable, and the continuously variable transmission (CVT) works well. But the car lacks responsive acceleration or agile handling. The interior has poorly finished materials."
 
~alpha
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Re: micweb has tried foreign makes... [alpha01] by brucepadgett
Jan 12, 2007 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: alpha01 (Jan 12, 2007 8:47 am)

What is "tail-happy handling"? Thanks.
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tail swings out in evasive manuevers by alpha01
Jan 15, 2007 (5:51 pm)
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moreso than one would expect, or want to deal with in emergency situations. Also called oversteer.
 
~alpha

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