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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan


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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [backy] by bobw3
Dec 22, 2006 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 21, 2006 2:42 pm)

You're both right.
 
The IIHS says that size matters in general, but in the IIHS test results for side impacts, some smaller cars do better than largers cars. And the side impact tests are the only ones that can be compared across vehicle class.
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [bobw3] by backy
Dec 22, 2006 (5:47 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 22, 2006 5:33 am)

I think the rear tests can be compared also, since only the seats are actually tested.
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Thanks for the clarification bobw3 by alpha01
Dec 22, 2006 (8:48 am)
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And that was exactly my point - with respect to side crashes, because scores are comparable across weight classes, it CAN be said that you are better off (which I'll define as lower likelihood of injury/death) in a Yaris (with Side Curtains) or Fit than you are in a Crown Victoria or a Sonata, or Fusion, or Maxima, etc.
 
However, it CANNOT be said that for frontal offset crashes you're better off in the Yaris or Fit (Good ratings) than in a Fusion or Impala (Acceptable.)
 
Again, thanks
~alpha
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [backy] by alpha01
Dec 22, 2006 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 21, 2006 2:42 pm)

"I read someplace else recently (can't remember where) that another reason that small/light cars are at a disadvantage in a side crash is that they can be pushed further than a heavier vehicle, and potentially putting the car into another traffic lane or other hazardous position."
 
That makes sense. But whatever results from that event is secondary or tertiary to the initial impact, which is what these tests consider.
 
~alpha
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [alpha01] by micweb
Dec 25, 2006 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: alpha01 (Dec 22, 2006 8:52 am)

Changed my decision. I bit the bullet and traded in our family oriented PT Cruiser for a car with standard side curtain airbags - the new car cost $12,888 after discount (plus tax and license and $45 doc fee), weighs 2,900 pounds with a stick shift, and got 5 Star (NHTSA) crash tests front and sides. It has four doors, essential for our little (in size, not numbers) family. Can you guess what I bought?
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [micweb] by lhanson
Dec 25, 2006 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 25, 2006 9:10 am)

I am guessing Hyundai Accent.
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [micweb] by roxy11
Dec 25, 2006 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 25, 2006 9:10 am)

even the new hyundai elantra 5 speed weighs in at just over 2700 lbs, so its definitely not an accent. besides, poor gas mileage wasnt mentioned, so accent and elantra are out.
of course, coming off the gas sucking pt cruiser, anything would be a vast improvement in the mileage department.
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [roxy11] by micweb
Dec 25, 2006 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: roxy11 (Dec 25, 2006 3:00 pm)

Roxy11 said in part,
 
"coming off the gas sucking pt cruiser,"
 
This comment, unfortunately, is NOT hyperbole.
 
I got a Caliber, which in stick shift configuration is about 2900 pounds, the most porkulent of the economy cars, but fortunately lighter than the PT and HOPEFULLY gets better gas mileage. We got a stick shift this time.
 
I can't blame the sample PT Cruiser we had for bad mileage nor the reportedly "inefficient" Chrysler automatic, since BOTH of the ones we had with auto got bad gas mileage, yet the same engine and transmission in a Dodge Caravan minivan actually got BETTER gas mileage - on the other hand the EPA ratings in the minivan are better, and the highway rating for the PT is only 26 mpg...the stick shift Caliber, on the other hand,is rated 28/32 - an odd combination since the city rating is higher than I would expect for a car of this weight, yet the spread with highway mileage is less than I would have thought (4 mpg spread vs. the more typical 7 mile per gallon or more spread).
 
I will report more on my impressions in the Caliber forum, but my initial impression is that this is much roomier than a Focus or Cobalt.
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Re: Will new IIHS scores change your buying decision? [micweb] by bobw3
Dec 25, 2006 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 25, 2006 4:11 pm)

Good LUCK...ever try a foreign make, or do you just drive Dodge?
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micweb has tried foreign makes... by iluvmysephia1
Dec 26, 2006 (9:41 am)
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because he once drove a Scion xA. His reports on that experience can be found in the Scion xA thread here on Edmunds.

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