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Replying to: targettuning (Dec 21, 2006 5:28 am) |
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Replying to: backy (Dec 20, 2006 12:13 pm) This is to say that you'd better off in a Yaris plus side airbags than you would be in a Crown Vic, even with its side airbags and "substantial" body on frame structure and weight, given the same size, shape, angle etc., of the impeding vehicle. Also, I don't think that vehicles are designed to favor one test over the other, and many vehicles do well in both. My opinion though, is still that the NHTSA side impact rating is very flawed, since it discounts BOTH Head Injury and Pelvic injury. Interesting correlation to note: The 5 star (NHTSA) side impact rated Hyundai Sonata recieves a 'Poor' Score for Driver Pelvis/Leg from the IIHS. In the NHTSA test, the Sonata had a Pelvic injury rating that was 1.5 times that of the top-scoring (both tests) Camry. (But the NHTSA score doesn't include Pelvis.) ~alpha
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Replying to: alpha01 (Dec 21, 2006 2:19 pm) It seems the IIHS disagrees with you (bold added by me): The Institute's side test is especially challenging for small cars because the barrier that strikes the test vehicle represents the front end of a pickup truck or SUV. Side airbags designed for head protection are crucial because the barrier crashes into the side of the car right at the head level of the two dummies that are positioned in the driver seat and in the rear seat behind the driver. "The Versa is bigger than the other cars we tested, so it has size and weight on its side as well as good test results," Lund says. http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr121906.html Maybe I am reading that wrong, but the way I read it, the IIHS is saying that the size/weight of a car does make a difference in side crash protection. I read someplace else recently (can't remember where) that another reason that small/light cars are at a disadvantage in a side crash is that they can be pushed further than a heavier vehicle, and potentially putting the car into another traffic lane or other hazardous position.
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Replying to: backy (Dec 21, 2006 2:42 pm) The IIHS says that size matters in general, but in the IIHS test results for side impacts, some smaller cars do better than largers cars. And the side impact tests are the only ones that can be compared across vehicle class.
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 22, 2006 5:33 am) |
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And that was exactly my point - with respect to side crashes, because scores are comparable across weight classes, it CAN be said that you are better off (which I'll define as lower likelihood of injury/death) in a Yaris (with Side Curtains) or Fit than you are in a Crown Victoria or a Sonata, or Fusion, or Maxima, etc. However, it CANNOT be said that for frontal offset crashes you're better off in the Yaris or Fit (Good ratings) than in a Fusion or Impala (Acceptable.) Again, thanks ~alpha |
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Replying to: backy (Dec 21, 2006 2:42 pm) That makes sense. But whatever results from that event is secondary or tertiary to the initial impact, which is what these tests consider. ~alpha
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Replying to: alpha01 (Dec 22, 2006 8:52 am) |
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 25, 2006 9:10 am) |
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Replying to: micweb (Dec 25, 2006 9:10 am) of course, coming off the gas sucking pt cruiser, anything would be a vast improvement in the mileage department.
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