Low End Sedans (under $16k)

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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan

#3512 of 3871 Re: Honda Fit is far superior to Toyota, Kia or Hyundai [carfanatic007] by backy

May 03, 2006 (7:02 pm)

Replying to: carfanatic007 (May 03, 2006 2:41 pm)
I made a statement of fact, that someone had already sold their Fit because of an uncomfortable driving position. To that you replied:
 
However, I seriously doubt that anyone has already "sold" there fit because it was uncomfortable. That, I find HARD to believe.
 
When you "seriously doubt" and find "HARD to believe" someone when they have made a statement of fact, you are basically saying they are lying. A more friendly way of expressing your shock over such behavior might be, "Wow, I am really surprised someone would do that!"
 
And by saying the story about getting rid of the Fit for a Murano sounds "fake", you are saying that you think the poster who told us about that experience is lying too.
 
Which Korean vehicles in this class have you driven? The 2006 Rio? 2006 Rio5? 2006 Accent? Aveo? I don't think the Aveo is competitive anymore in this class, but if you haven't driven the latest models from Korea you might want to do that, as you might be pleasantly surprised if you do it with an open mind.
 
You see, I am a Honda fan also and loved the two Civics I owned. But I am not stuck on any one brand, or country. Let the best car for my needs win (my money).

#3513 of 3871 Moms next car by ross14

May 04, 2006 (4:23 pm)

The Olds Ciera is not small, or very economical. It has great sightlines( hood & trunk may be seen if Mom is tall enough). Is she ready to downsize? If not, the Camry 4 cylinder with adjustable seats is very comfortable for my petite wife. The Camry Le lifts her way up, whereas the Accord needs the most expensive model to get the height option. We get over 25 on the Hwy On our 2006. If mom feels safe in downsizing, the Elantra has wonderful seat adjustment, average mpg, & best warranty. I have 2 close friends with Elantras, & they are very saisfied. I would not suggest the new Honda Civic, because the sightlines are ridiculous. Mom might also get a kick out of the old Rav 4, or the Honda CRV, or the Matrix.

#3514 of 3871 Re: Moms next car [ross14] by randydriver

May 04, 2006 (5:00 pm)

Replying to: ross14 (May 04, 2006 4:23 pm)
Thanks. Well I have found out my mom wants a small and I do mean small car...I had a Ford Festiva years ago and she like my 99 Metro I had and wants close to the same kind of mileage...I did explain to her cars are heavier now and the mileage is lower on the small cars. I took a buttload of brouchers to Mom. Her picks were the Yaris, Fit, Aveo, 3-door Accent and the Rio5. Now she says could you get me some more info on them ....I wish she had a computer. So I am going to all the forums and listening to everyone talk about all the cars (except the 3-door Accent, sedan will be close).

#3515 of 3871 Courageous Mom by ross14

May 05, 2006 (5:53 pm)

Assuming all the cars were 2 doors( Except the Rio5 4door), your Mom is picking cars way under 160" long. Even I would hesitate to drive 140 miles round trip in a Mini vehicle. I've had shorter cars( Fiat 600, & Bug-eyed Sprite) which I've enjoyed on the road, but never would they be acceptable as daily long trip rides. How about a minimum weight of 2700 pounds, with air bags front & side installed?

#3516 of 3871 Re: Moms next car [randydriver] by backy

May 05, 2006 (6:12 pm)

Replying to: randydriver (May 04, 2006 5:00 pm)
First thing mom should do is draw up a list of requirements, then divide it into two categories: "blockers" (must-haves) and "pushers" (not a must-have, but if the car has it or does it better than other cars, it's a plus). Then she should review the specs to see if any cars can be eliminated just based on those and her "blockers". Then she should test-drive the remaining cars. For now, all she could drive are the Yaris, Fit, Aveo, and Rio5. (The Accent 3-door should be out soon. May want to wait for the 3-door since the suspension and steering, and back seat, are different from the 4-door.) Then eliminate any cars that don't meet all the "blockers" based on the test drive, and rank the others based on the "pushers".

#3517 of 3871 Re: Courageous Mom [ross14] by backy

May 05, 2006 (6:17 pm)

Replying to: ross14 (May 05, 2006 5:53 pm)
I found the Accent 4-door very comfortable and quiet on the highway and I expect it would make a good highway cruiser--except no cruise control! The Rio5 was similar but a little firmer ride and better handling. The Yaris 4-door wasn't a bad highway car either, and cruise is available. The Fit is a little firm but if the highways are smooth the automatic cruises quite nicely also--although cruise is available only on the Sport model. All these cars are available with ABS and side bags/curtains, except they seem harder to find with the Yaris since they are optional (also ABS is optional on the Rio5 and Accent GS). One thing, though--I would wait for the IIHS crash test results before buying one of these small cars. Especially if it were for my mom.

#3519 of 3871 Well by randydriver

May 06, 2006 (5:40 am)

My mom will come up to Dallas the second week of June and we will hunt for cars and draw up a list. Believe me my mother has drove small cars most of her life and can more than handle it. By the way, she isnt that old.

#3520 of 3871 Anyone from Boston area? by cargirl13

May 10, 2006 (12:09 pm)

Hi!
I am looking for a compact sedan. Right now, I am comparing the accent and corolla. Also, interested in mazda 3 and focus. Anyone bought any of these cars around here recently. If so, from what dealership? Any good dealerships? Any horror stories?
 
Any advice would be much appreciated!

#3521 of 3871 Re: Anyone from Boston area? [cargirl13] by micweb

May 10, 2006 (4:21 pm)

Replying to: cargirl13 (May 10, 2006 12:09 pm)
If you live in a major metropolitan area, the "ad specials" on Corollas are very hard to beat, offering $2,000 to $3,000 of discount. Toyota is the gold standard and the Corolla will deliver years of good service. The Mazda3 is more of an enthusiast's car, less of an appliance, but reliability is lower, resale isn't as good, and dealers are harder to find. Consider them the VW of Japanese cars. The Ford Focus is a Mazda3 on the last generation chassis and with the lowest resale value. It has been recommended by Consumer Reports, and I have owned several, but I can only recommend it at firesale prices (heavy rebates) due to the depreication thing.
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