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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan


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Re: Accent vs. Yaris [backy] by giantkiller
Apr 09, 2006 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 09, 2006 5:39 am)

No way. See the planet Pluto ? Thats as far as you can be to being objective. Its not as if these cars arent or cant be test driven first hand by readers here. They are and I did and there is no way your bias observation about Yaris holds true for me.
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Re: I will vouch for backy's [iluvmysephia1] by giantkiller
Apr 09, 2006 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 09, 2006 10:22 am)

Leg up help for Toyota? I never own a Toyota all my life. I even criticized them about their option pricing and not offering the standard SAB. These people evaluating this and that like theyre being objective is disgraceful. You only have to go ot a couple of topics here in the forums to unmask these people. Pathetic.
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Re: I will vouch for backy's [giantkiller] by pat HOST
Apr 09, 2006 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 12:00 pm)

Why don't you just give us your objective reviews of these cars instead of flinging insults all over?
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Re: Accent vs. Yaris [giantkiller] by backy
Apr 09, 2006 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 11:54 am)

Sure, lots of posters drive these cars and share their opinions. Why don't you share with us your detailed observations of your head-to-head drives of the Accent and Yaris? You have driven both cars, right? Preferably on the same course, on the same day, as I did, to make an apples-to-apples comparison.
 
I know I am biased. I am biased towards cars that are comfortable to drive, have a good mix of ride and handling in the kinds of driving most of us do in these cars (and that's not canyon-carving), are high quality, reliable, economical, safe, versatile, and a good value. Every reviewer, including the "pros" at Edmunds.com, C/D, MT, CR etc. is biased. But each reviewer has his/her own biases. I am not biased towards any particular brand. Let the best car win. You obviously have biases that differ from mine and those lead you to consider the Yaris superior to the Accent. That's fine. That's what discussion boards like this are all about. If everyone agreed on everything, they would be very dull.
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Edmunds' test by joe97
Apr 09, 2006 (3:43 pm)
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Here's Edmunds' take:
 
Toyota fails to build a better Corolla
 
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=109860
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Re: I will vouch for backy's [iluvmysephia1] by dclurker
Apr 09, 2006 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 09, 2006 10:22 am)

I, too, will vouch for Backy. The man is good. He does better reviews than many professional writers.
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Too beautiful by ross14
Apr 09, 2006 (5:26 pm)
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Wow, great work, Backy. I've owned 4 Toyotas that were bulletproof, but every one of them had God-awful seats. If you can, would love to read a review of the new Accent hatchback, vs. the Yaris hatchback. Sat in the 4 door Yaris & became numb looking at black everywhere. And another awful seat. But the Yaris 3 door, designed in Europe(?), is a winner. Stunning interior, & adequate seats. Suspect that Accent hatcback with a rebate, will easily be the "Best Buy". The Aveo also has a longer warranty, than the typical Chevy.
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Re: Too beautiful [ross14] by backy
Apr 09, 2006 (5:42 pm)
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Replying to: ross14 (Apr 09, 2006 5:26 pm)

Unfortuntely my local dealer didn't have any Yaris 3-doors, and the 2007 Accent 3-door hasn't made it to my town yet. I've sat in the Accent 3-door and it feels a lot up front like the sedan--same dash (silver trim in the SE) and same seats (different fabric in the SE I recall). Just real big doors and more cramped in back, and the hatch. Good looking though. I've only seen the Yaris 3-door from the outside, at auto shows--they were always locked. I'd be interested to see how they "sit" since I understand they don't have a seat height adjuster at all. I priced out the Yaris 3-door and with the equipment I want, it was close in price to the 5-door Fit and Versa, and I suspect about the same as the Accent SE (prices not announced yet). So that is tough competition for the Yaris, especially since it has the least cargo capacity with seats up of any of those cars.
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Well, how do you like that... by iluvmysephia1
Apr 09, 2006 (6:08 pm)
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Edmunds's review of the 2007 Toyota Yaris reveals a flaw in the ointment: the cupholders are not placed intelligently. Wow. Good review by Edmunds, though. Even a picture of the offending cupholders. I'll be looking for them on the test drive.
 
I'm still interested!
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Re: Edmunds' test [joe97] by giantkiller
Apr 09, 2006 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Apr 09, 2006 3:43 pm)

Another funny guy. Edmunds did a comparison of the Camry Accord and Sonata. Didnt like the review. Told everyone that the comparison dont mean a squat. Now, a not so good review of Yaris. Here he comes posting the link to every small car forum like it was the best thing since slice bread.
Now let me answer that review. Yes, they failed to build a better Corolla because the better Corolla wont be here until next year and in case they didnt know they're evaluating a Yaris, which is certainly a better Echo in all respect. Case close.

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