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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan

#3455 of 3820 Re: Accent vs. Yaris [backy] by giantkiller Apr 08, 2006 (10:51 pm)
Replying to: backy (Apr 08, 2006 8:49 pm) Hey Back, are we suppose to believe that? Since you've shown that you're pro Hyundai. And Edmunds , please close the Forum Test Drive BS. Its full of sheet of metal anyways. Who do you suppose will believe Back? Replies to this message: backy (Apr 09, 2006 5:39 am) giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 11:54 am) backy (Apr 09, 2006 12:56 pm) pat (Apr 09, 2006 8:36 am)
#3456 of 3820 Re: Accent vs. Yaris [giantkiller] by backy Apr 09, 2006 (5:39 am)
Replying to: giantkiller (Apr 08, 2006 10:51 pm) When I share my test drives here I try to be as objective as possible. I own two Hyundais now but also two Mazdas (need to sell one of the Hyundais in the next few days). I've owned or leased Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans, Mazdas, Dodges, and a Mercury, Chevy, and Mitsubishi. As of now the top choice for my next new car is the Honda Fit--but I haven't been able to drive it yet.   If you would re-read my review you will see I said many positive things about the Yaris. But I like what I like, and I call 'em as I see 'em. If you don't like that, don't read my posts. Simple as that. Replies to this message: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 11:54 am) backy (Apr 09, 2006 12:56 pm)
#3457 of 3820 Re: Accent vs. Yaris [giantkiller] by pat HOST Apr 09, 2006 (8:36 am)
Replying to: giantkiller (Apr 08, 2006 10:51 pm) Backy has proved himself to be a very objective reviewer. If you haven't realized that, you have not been paying attention.   We have no intention of closing the Forum Test Drive discussion. If it does not interest you, feel free not to read it.   If you have other Forums management comments to make, please make them via email rather than disrupting a topical discussion. Thank you.
#3458 of 3820 I will vouch for backy's by iluvmysephia1 Apr 09, 2006 (10:22 am)
objectiveness in his car reviews. He has reviewed many a car in his regular posts, too, not just in this 'Forums Test Drive' format and I always look forward to reading what he has to say.   giantkiller, man, Toyota doesn't need a leg up help from you, anyway, man! I am totally Hyundai/Kia and now I am even looking at a 2007 Toyota Yaris sedan as a possibility. In my view the new Yaris has classic, cool and sporty lines to it that draw me to it. Plus, it has that legendary Toyota quality(why would this car be an exception to the Toyota rule?)going for it plus great resale value. It rings up to a whopping $14,589 and that is certainly acceptable to me. My own 'Low End" sedan price criteria is more like "let's keep the total before T&L price to be under $15,000."   With all the cool small cars coming out now one can do that and still get a very, very nice car.   What I'm saying is Toyota's grabbing new customers all the time. No need to jealously back them up all the time. Their products speak for themselves. Replies to this message: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 12:00 pm) pat (Apr 09, 2006 12:55 pm) dclurker (Apr 09, 2006 4:46 pm)
#3459 of 3820 Re: Accent vs. Yaris [backy] by giantkiller Apr 09, 2006 (11:54 am)
Replying to: backy (Apr 09, 2006 5:39 am) No way. See the planet Pluto ? Thats as far as you can be to being objective. Its not as if these cars arent or cant be test driven first hand by readers here. They are and I did and there is no way your bias observation about Yaris holds true for me. Replies to this message: backy (Apr 09, 2006 12:56 pm)
#3460 of 3820 Re: I will vouch for backy's [iluvmysephia1] by giantkiller Apr 09, 2006 (12:00 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 09, 2006 10:22 am) Leg up help for Toyota? I never own a Toyota all my life. I even criticized them about their option pricing and not offering the standard SAB. These people evaluating this and that like theyre being objective is disgraceful. You only have to go ot a couple of topics here in the forums to unmask these people. Pathetic. Replies to this message: pat (Apr 09, 2006 12:55 pm)
#3461 of 3820 Re: I will vouch for backy's [giantkiller] by pat HOST Apr 09, 2006 (12:55 pm)
Replying to: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 12:00 pm) Why don't you just give us your objective reviews of these cars instead of flinging insults all over?
#3462 of 3820 Re: Accent vs. Yaris [giantkiller] by backy Apr 09, 2006 (12:56 pm)
Replying to: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 11:54 am) Sure, lots of posters drive these cars and share their opinions. Why don't you share with us your detailed observations of your head-to-head drives of the Accent and Yaris? You have driven both cars, right? Preferably on the same course, on the same day, as I did, to make an apples-to-apples comparison.   I know I am biased. I am biased towards cars that are comfortable to drive, have a good mix of ride and handling in the kinds of driving most of us do in these cars (and that's not canyon-carving), are high quality, reliable, economical, safe, versatile, and a good value. Every reviewer, including the "pros" at Edmunds.com, C/D, MT, CR etc. is biased. But each reviewer has his/her own biases. I am not biased towards any particular brand. Let the best car win. You obviously have biases that differ from mine and those lead you to consider the Yaris superior to the Accent. That's fine. That's what discussion boards like this are all about. If everyone agreed on everything, they would be very dull.
#3463 of 3820 Edmunds' test by joe97 Apr 09, 2006 (3:43 pm)
Here's Edmunds' take:   Toyota fails to build a better Corolla   http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=109860 Replies to this message: giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 7:12 pm) backy (Apr 09, 2006 7:25 pm) giantkiller (Apr 09, 2006 8:16 pm) and 3 more...
#3464 of 3820 Re: I will vouch for backy's [iluvmysephia1] by dclurker Apr 09, 2006 (4:46 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 09, 2006 10:22 am) I, too, will vouch for Backy. The man is good. He does better reviews than many professional writers.

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