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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan

#3430 of 3820 Re: C&D comparison [backy] by alpha01 Apr 02, 2006 (10:10 am)
Replying to: backy (Apr 01, 2006 8:15 pm) The Rio5 and Accent were pretty dang slow, too, given similar power outputs to the other vehicles. 10.2 seconds to 60 with a manual transmission is really anemic these days. They also weren't that great in fuel efficiency, but the braking numbers posted were REALLY impressive (same could be said for Yaris).   165 from 70! Thats practically sports car territory!   ~alpha
#3431 of 3820 alpha01... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 02, 2006 (10:31 am)
does that include the 2007 Toyota Yaris sedan?   A 5-speed one in Barcelona Red Metallic just came in to my local dealer and I'm considering a test drive.   Yeah, I have heard of the 2006 Rio's great braking and slaloming abilites, besting the 2006 Audi A3 even.   Slow 0-60 times mean absolutely nothing to me as I like to drive in a humane, civil way (usually).
#3432 of 3820 Re: Easy, backy... [iluvmysephia1] by backy Apr 02, 2006 (11:12 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Apr 02, 2006 7:48 am) I don't think it's Honda so much as anything that handles great, C/D loves, no matter what. So a few years ago they ranked the Protege the top small car because it had the best handling, even though it had a harsh ride, not very good fuel economy, and a relatively high price for the field. The Civic finished fifth in that comparo I think, and they called it "a loser." So C/D doesn't always put Honda on top. But in this comparo, the Fit was the best handling car so that's what wound up as their #1. Very predictable.
#3433 of 3820 Handling in nyc by ross14 Apr 02, 2006 (3:16 pm)
Also took a test drive in a Mazda protege top model. Best handling small car, but useless on city streets, because of horrendous ride. If you want handling throw on Konis. I prefer a manufacturer that can make a car that is quiet, comfortable, & supple riding. City streets, with potholes, & highways congested with traffic, require topnotch brakes, & minimal handling. I'm hoping the Accent Hatchback, with some suspension tweaks, will be a econo wiz. Replies to this message: backy (Apr 02, 2006 4:59 pm)
#3434 of 3820 Re: Handling in nyc [ross14] by backy Apr 02, 2006 (4:59 pm)
Replying to: ross14 (Apr 02, 2006 3:16 pm) The Accent SE is supposed to have a "sport suspension", so it might give you want you want without any tweaks needed. It will be interesting to see what C/D says about that car. It's also interesting they did not include it in their small car comparo, since it is due out before the Versa is. Maybe they decided to test only 4-door (or 5-door) cars.
#3435 of 3820 CHEAP second car by ross14 Apr 03, 2006 (5:02 am)
Own a 2006 Camry. After 95 Toyota pickup(244,000 miles) was vandalized(our 2nd car), want best cheap new car. Accent hatchback will probably be choice(Aveo's warranty rules it out), but its not here in N.Y. yet. It better have a lower cost then the Corolla, which is severely discounted. Hated driving position of Corolla, but got in one where steering wheel was set at lowest position, & it was a different car. I may throw out price if the Yaris hatchback has an acceptable city & highway ride. It is a spacious(People, not luggage) stunner. Replies to this message: backy (Apr 03, 2006 5:15 am) cdoc (Apr 03, 2006 9:44 am) backy (Apr 03, 2006 10:58 am)
#3436 of 3820 Re: CHEAP second car [ross14] by backy Apr 03, 2006 (5:15 am)
Replying to: ross14 (Apr 03, 2006 5:02 am) Another one to think about is the Versa, which will start at $12k and still be under $14k for a very well equipped car (ABS, power package, AC, side bags/curtains, cruise, keyless entry, 6-speed). Replies to this message: cdoc (Apr 03, 2006 9:44 am) backy (Apr 03, 2006 10:58 am)
#3437 of 3820 Re: CHEAP second car [backy] by cdoc Apr 03, 2006 (9:44 am)
Replying to: backy (Apr 03, 2006 5:15 am) We wanted a second car that was inexpensive to buy, small, economical to run, with some oomph on the road, comfortable, four doors, and a liftback. We found all that in a Scion xA, which has the same engine as the Yaris. At just over $12k, it comes with all the bells and whistles (including ABS but not cruise control). There's plenty of room for four adults. It has a very small luggage area, but it does have 60/40 folding rear seats. Then again, for a second car we don't need that much space for luggage. We've had it for two weeks and I love it. Replies to this message: backy (Apr 03, 2006 10:58 am)
#3438 of 3820 Re: CHEAP second car [cdoc] by backy Apr 03, 2006 (10:58 am)
Replying to: cdoc (Apr 03, 2006 9:44 am) The xA is an attractive package at a low price. What turns me off about is is: no side curtains available; tiny luggage space with the rear seats up; very firm ride; center-mounted gauges. That is why the Versa appeals to me--for about $1000 more than the xA I can address all those issues, plus have room for three adults (or big kids) in back.
#3439 of 3820 backy... by iluvmysephia1 Apr 03, 2006 (11:36 am)
the 2007 Toyota Yaris 5-speed Barcelona Red base sedan I'm eyeing right now at my local Pocatello dealer is selling for $14,650 and includes the 15" steel wheel upgrade, several "power package" ugrades in the stereo, battery, larger, level washer fluid reservoir (I know, but Toyota advertises the upgrade like it's something some of their small-car customers are craving!), power W/L/M's, etc.   What I didn't expect was the fact that this neat little red sedan comes with the optional front and passenger front seat side airbags and front and rear side curtain airbags as well!   Basically the only thing I'd add would be nice rims from a local tire and wheel center here ASAP. Just about to my string of days off so a test drive is almost a certainty.   Wife may not like the "low-rider" stance of the seating, however, the ride of the 2006 Polar White Scion xA was anything but "lowrider". We were up pretty well-not like our Sportage's "up high" seating but surprisingly up pretty high.   I just wonder how low one sits in the Yaris sedan for 2007. Only one of the things I'll be checking out.   To me, under $15,000 with looks that are much improved over the lowly-looking Corolla, the Yaris sedan not only is very affordable but also a rig that would hold it's resale value.   The Kia Rio LX and Rio5 still ring true as value packed rigs to me as well and I wouldn't buy the Yaris sedan until at least test driving the Rio twins. Replies to this message: backy (Apr 03, 2006 12:31 pm)

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