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#3414 of 3820 Absolutely! by sandman46 Mar 20, 2006 (5:18 pm)
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#3415 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [alpha01] by backy Mar 21, 2006 (5:47 am)
Replying to: alpha01 (Mar 20, 2006 4:13 pm) It might be reasonable for a Toyota and those willing to pay the "Toyota premium". Those looking for the most car for their money can get a Sonata with all of that equipment except aux input jack plus ESC and much more interior room for about the same price, after typical discounts and rebates. An Accent with similar equipment can be had for about $2500 less (no cruise or aux input jack). Replies to this message: alpha01 (Mar 21, 2006 7:39 am) bamacar (Mar 21, 2006 10:51 am) lightfootfl (Mar 21, 2006 11:15 am) backy (Mar 21, 2006 6:04 pm)
#3416 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [backy] by alpha01 Mar 21, 2006 (7:39 am)
Replying to: backy (Mar 21, 2006 5:47 am) I'm sorry, but I think it takes a lot more work to find a Sonata at under $16K than you think. I cant configure one that with automatic for that figure on any website, so you're talking about the usual "1 at this price" newspaper dealer ads- and to qualify for those types, Hyundai often requires a Loyalty Rebate, which many may not be eligible for. If you can show me an achievable price on a Sonata 4 door 4A for $15,800, I will stand corrected.   [In Philadelphia, the Sonata is priced by carsdirect.com at $17,256, a far cry from $15.8K. Help me find the additional $1500.]   Addtionally, you're assuming that the Yaris is going to sell at sticker for a long time. At invoice, that Yaris is another grand less, around $14,700, and I dont think you'll find even the most discounted Sonata at that price.   I also don't see an Accent at $13,300 with that equipment on edmunds, carsdirect etc.   ~alpha Replies to this message: bamacar (Mar 21, 2006 10:51 am) lightfootfl (Mar 21, 2006 11:15 am) backy (Mar 21, 2006 6:04 pm)
#3417 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [alpha01] by bamacar Mar 21, 2006 (10:51 am)
Replying to: alpha01 (Mar 21, 2006 7:39 am) Go to fitzmall.com. The Sonata GL Auto is $15,400. Even the move up to GLS Auto is only $15926. The GLS V6 Auto is $16700.   What I am also comparing to the Yaris 4 door S with manual transmission is the Honda Fit Sport with manual. The Fit is $15600. The Yaris S 4 door (base 13900) with comparable equipment- Power Pkg with alloy wheels (+1350), Airbag Pkg (+650), Keyless (+230), Foglights (+110) puts it up to $16200. The Toyota is about $600 higher than the Honda.   The two are in the same ballpark, but neither is a great bargain at these MSRPs. I need 4 doors. I prefer a hatchback, but sadly there is no 5 door for the Yaris.   I also am considering the Sonata; compared to either the Fit or Yaris, it is a bargain. The fuel economy difference is big for me though. Replies to this message: lightfootfl (Mar 21, 2006 11:15 am)
#3418 of 3820 I do see that price on Fitzmall! Dang! by alpha01 Mar 21, 2006 (11:12 am)
But that is one (albeit HUGE) dealership network, the country is kind of large (FYI)   Why are you only considering a Yaris S? If you spec out the base model, it will be cheaper than the Fit... Yaris S doesnt offer any performance improvements, its just a trim and appearance pkg, like the Corolla S. Interesting that Toyota takes a different route with the Camry and Av, though.   ~alpha
#3419 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [bamacar] by lightfootfl Mar 21, 2006 (11:15 am)
Replying to: bamacar (Mar 21, 2006 10:51 am) Think about the Hyundai Elantra, it has a 5 door. The Sonata is a full size unit, and the mileage isn't as good.
#3420 of 3820 But by alpha01 Mar 21, 2006 (2:21 pm)
The Elantra is ancient if you're going to buy a new car, has poor side impact ratings even with standard side airbags, ABS still is scarce in some areas on the GLS, and fuel efficiency still falls short for the class (its not much better than the larger Sonata's). If you're going Elantra, I'd definitely give up a little in feature content and roll with the Sonata GL.   ~alpha
#3421 of 3820 And since we're talking low-end sedans here.. by iluvmysephia1 Mar 21, 2006 (3:29 pm)
the 2006 Kia Rio LX 4-door sedan is only $13,055.   For a sedan with factory-installed front, side and side curtain airbags standard that is really a great price. In any color. Replies to this message: sbspence (Mar 26, 2006 1:50 pm)
#3422 of 3820 Re: I'm wondering [danf1] by chuck1959 Mar 21, 2006 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: danf1 (Oct 10, 2005 5:46 am) Since the Rio Cinco board seems to be dead (no post since Jan/06. I am going to ask my question here...if no one objects. Does anyone know about a "add on" dealer installed turbo kit? I heard about it somewhere, but don't recall where. I read on the net yesterday one is now available for Scion.
#3423 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [alpha01] by backy Mar 21, 2006 (6:04 pm)
Replying to: alpha01 (Mar 21, 2006 7:39 am) First, I was talking about the present. I realize that in the future there will probably be discounts on the Yaris, maybe even rebates but based on history they would be small ones.   Sonata: check out the Sonata Prices Paid discussion, you will see several examples of Sonata I4 automatics under $16k. Here is typical pricing for my town right now:   Sonata GLS I4: $19,995 Less General rebate: - $500 Less HMFC rebate: - $1000 Less Auto Show discount: $500 Less Loyalty rebate: - $1000 Less discount: (assumes invoice pricing; some dealers are going below invoice) - $1500   Final price: $15,500   (Note that Toyota ususally does not offer an Auto Show discount in my area, but Hyundai has for many years.)   As for the Accent, all it takes is the current $1000 rebate and a discount to right around invoice to get the price around $13,300.   Of course, local market conditions vary. If the dealers in Philly won't give you a decent discount on the Sonata, try Fitzmall.

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