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What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan

#3409 of 3820 Most of these small cars by b3nut Feb 27, 2006 (1:38 pm)
would fare more or less OK when hit by another small car, except at really high speeds. Pretty much all of them would be nicely creamed if t-boned by a Hummer or Extinction or Escrapalade. Even a 5-star crash-rated econobox will be flattened by a semi. You pays your money and you takes your chance. The airbags will help, but if Sally Soccermom comes along in her H2 land yacht blabbing mindlessly on her cellphone and plows into you, you're toast whether you're in an Ion, Rio, Focus, Jetta, whatever.   Seems I end up liking the cars with average crash test scores...the Rio5 and Focus ZX5 hatchbacks. Neither are all that impressive in that regard. My Escort ZX2 did pretty well in a side-impact crash...but that was being hit by a Honda CRX. Dished my door in, scratched the Honda. Body shop had to get a door off a junked ZX2...came out well though.   I still am impressed with the Rio5 for my next car...   Todd in Beerbratistan
#3410 of 3820 b3nut... by iluvmysephia1 Feb 27, 2006 (2:55 pm)
me, too. My wife and I have decided to wait on the trade-in for now, though.   The 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4 is running great and the better ghastly mileage of the Rio5 or Rio LX sedan will just have to wait a period of...ummm...several months, as far as I can tell.
#3411 of 3820 Re: And I would wonder [iluvmysephia1] by backy Feb 27, 2006 (3:25 pm)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Feb 27, 2006 12:03 pm) Safety tests are for the crappy drivers and the worry warts.   I agree--safety tests are for the crappy drivers--who are aiming for my car. As for worry warts... how about if you just keep on obsessing about that red Rio5 on your dealer's lot, and let others obsess about the safety of themselves and their families.   Give me one good extendo-thought reason why I should worry about those tests, after considering the comments I've already made here?   Well, there is obviously nothing no one else needs to say to you about this "silly little thing", because you aren't worried about your safety or that of your wife or other passengers in your car.   Re Tom Petty... do you know how much obsession and effort goes into crash protection in race cars? I wonder why, since without it the driver will probably die instantly in a crash and they won't have to wonder, wait, and worry about those silly little things that add up to nothing.   Re doing well in crash tests with a small rig... take a look at this:   http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=300
#3412 of 3820 Yaris pricing by alpha01 Mar 20, 2006 (4:13 pm)
I thought earlier on this board, people were bemoaning the pricing of the Yaris, but it seems pretty dang competitive to me:   Yaris 4 door base 4A including:   Power Pkg (ABS w/EBD, alloys, power windows, doorlocks, mirrors, cruise control, tachometer, upgraded interior trim, AM/FM CD with MP3/WMA capability/aux audio jack) All Weather Guard pkg (heavy duty rear defogger, rear heater ducts, etc) Remote Keyless Entry Side and Side Curtain Airbags   $15,865 (includes $580 destination).   That strikes me as pretty darn reasonable.   ~alpha Replies to this message: backy (Mar 21, 2006 5:47 am) alpha01 (Mar 21, 2006 7:39 am) bamacar (Mar 21, 2006 10:51 am) and 1 more... backy (Mar 21, 2006 6:04 pm)
#3413 of 3820 Absolutely! by sandman46 Mar 20, 2006 (5:17 pm)
#3414 of 3820 Absolutely! by sandman46 Mar 20, 2006 (5:18 pm)
The Sandman
#3415 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [alpha01] by backy Mar 21, 2006 (5:47 am)
Replying to: alpha01 (Mar 20, 2006 4:13 pm) It might be reasonable for a Toyota and those willing to pay the "Toyota premium". Those looking for the most car for their money can get a Sonata with all of that equipment except aux input jack plus ESC and much more interior room for about the same price, after typical discounts and rebates. An Accent with similar equipment can be had for about $2500 less (no cruise or aux input jack). Replies to this message: alpha01 (Mar 21, 2006 7:39 am) bamacar (Mar 21, 2006 10:51 am) lightfootfl (Mar 21, 2006 11:15 am) backy (Mar 21, 2006 6:04 pm)
#3416 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [backy] by alpha01 Mar 21, 2006 (7:39 am)
Replying to: backy (Mar 21, 2006 5:47 am) I'm sorry, but I think it takes a lot more work to find a Sonata at under $16K than you think. I cant configure one that with automatic for that figure on any website, so you're talking about the usual "1 at this price" newspaper dealer ads- and to qualify for those types, Hyundai often requires a Loyalty Rebate, which many may not be eligible for. If you can show me an achievable price on a Sonata 4 door 4A for $15,800, I will stand corrected.   [In Philadelphia, the Sonata is priced by carsdirect.com at $17,256, a far cry from $15.8K. Help me find the additional $1500.]   Addtionally, you're assuming that the Yaris is going to sell at sticker for a long time. At invoice, that Yaris is another grand less, around $14,700, and I dont think you'll find even the most discounted Sonata at that price.   I also don't see an Accent at $13,300 with that equipment on edmunds, carsdirect etc.   ~alpha Replies to this message: bamacar (Mar 21, 2006 10:51 am) lightfootfl (Mar 21, 2006 11:15 am) backy (Mar 21, 2006 6:04 pm)
#3417 of 3820 Re: Yaris pricing [alpha01] by bamacar Mar 21, 2006 (10:51 am)
Replying to: alpha01 (Mar 21, 2006 7:39 am) Go to fitzmall.com. The Sonata GL Auto is $15,400. Even the move up to GLS Auto is only $15926. The GLS V6 Auto is $16700.   What I am also comparing to the Yaris 4 door S with manual transmission is the Honda Fit Sport with manual. The Fit is $15600. The Yaris S 4 door (base 13900) with comparable equipment- Power Pkg with alloy wheels (+1350), Airbag Pkg (+650), Keyless (+230), Foglights (+110) puts it up to $16200. The Toyota is about $600 higher than the Honda.   The two are in the same ballpark, but neither is a great bargain at these MSRPs. I need 4 doors. I prefer a hatchback, but sadly there is no 5 door for the Yaris.   I also am considering the Sonata; compared to either the Fit or Yaris, it is a bargain. The fuel economy difference is big for me though. Replies to this message: lightfootfl (Mar 21, 2006 11:15 am)
#3418 of 3820 I do see that price on Fitzmall! Dang! by alpha01 Mar 21, 2006 (11:12 am)
But that is one (albeit HUGE) dealership network, the country is kind of large (FYI)   Why are you only considering a Yaris S? If you spec out the base model, it will be cheaper than the Fit... Yaris S doesnt offer any performance improvements, its just a trim and appearance pkg, like the Corolla S. Interesting that Toyota takes a different route with the Camry and Av, though.   ~alpha

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