Last post on Dec 30, 2011 at 9:54 AM
You are in the Sedans
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Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan
#3275 of 3871 Re: Underestimate HyunKIA at your own peril if you're an automaker [giantki
Oct 28, 2005 (8:06 pm)
I've registered 15K miles on my 7 month old Toyota. For this period or amount of driving, I expect that cars will start to have rattles. Guess what? I've got none. That's what I'm talking about.
I've put 15+k miles on my 15 month old KIA Spectra EX on the bomb cratered roads of southern Michigan, and my car has no rattles. No squeaks. No buzzes.
It's gone through a winter with near 0 degree temperatures and no exterior or interior plastic panels or trim has cracked, discolored, or broken. No surface rust is apparent anywhere on my car except a tad on the brake rotors, which I have see worse cases of on $30K+ imported and domestic vehicles. (The State of Michigan just *loves* its road salt! in the winter!)
My Spectra starts quickly every time, and has never let me down. It runs so quietly that a guy walking through my parking lot at work almost walked into my car while looking back at his car while I'm sitting waiting to turn down a lane in the lot. He walked nearly 5-6 steps (only feet away from my car) and apparently couldn't hear me sitting there with the engine running after turning off of the road ajoining the lot. The look on his face when he finally turned my way and just about walked into my car was priceless.
My point is, I have a first hand experience with Hyundai and I didnt have a good one. Now for Hyundai to get me back as a customer they should have better reputaion than the 90 days IQS for I wasnt born yesterday and I know what I want and what to look for in a car .
That overseas lemon you owned definitely bit Hyundai-KIA in the butt where you're concerned, and perhaps rightfully so. I many times wonder if cars intended for domestic consumption in Asia (esp. Korea) have been subjected to a different set of quality standards, based on various stories and articles I've read on the 'net. There are many mentions of Hyundai's awareness of having to take their quality efforts up several notches to meet "North American quality expectations" when shipping product here.
I suspect that my car's stellar 1 year+ quality, and other recent good reports on new Hyundai-KIA models are examples of that phenomenon.
I'll repeat. Any car maker that chooses to ignore Hyundai-KIA's rapid quality turnaround and lofty quality and sales goals does so at their own peril..... at least until Hyundai-KIA 's quality and designs show marked back sliding over a sustained period. For now their recent new design efforts show only an upwards trend.
Speaking of trends, check these out:
Kia is the second-fastest growing brand in the U.S. market, with sales over the last five years climbing 68%. Hunt says Kia's sales have skyrocketed from 12,000 units in 1994, with an average transaction price of $10,000, to 273,000 units last year, with an average price of $20,000.
Hyundai trails only BMW as the fastest-growing car brand, import or domestic, in Autodata's listings so far this year. It has set a 15% sales increase in the USA as its 2005 target — and lagged behind its goal by less than a percentage point for the first two months of the year.
Kia is also off to a promising start after a solid 13% sales gain last year.
THAT'S what I'm talking about.
#3276 of 3871 Re: Sentra Limited Edition in 2006? [coffeejunkee]
Oct 29, 2005 (12:02 am)
According to the Nissan website, it appears that they will offer a Ltd. Edition Sentra for ')6. It also looks like it'll only be available in automatic, not manual.
Too bad it isn't like the '03-'04 LE with the 2.5L from the Altima.
#3277 of 3871 Re: Underestimate HyunKIA at your own peril if you're an automaker [giantki [spectraman]
Oct 29, 2005 (6:38 pm)
Why are you telling me that? Am I Toyota? I'm not a carmaker. I'm not employed in whatever manner to the auto industry. So if you want, go to Toyota, Honda, Nissan GM, Ford and Daimler-Chrysler website and get their E-mail address and tell them not to ignore Hyundai-Kia's rapid turnaround and perceive threat to their mrket share at their own peril.
As for me, Hyundai-Kia can hire all the PR guys they want and send me all kinds of press release everyday telling me how they're gonna rule the world in the future and I wont give a damn.
#3278 of 3871 I think what spectraman may mean
Oct 30, 2005 (8:29 am)
is some people are still viewing HyunKia products as rattletrap rustbuckets produced out of coffee cans and with rusty wrenches. Reading some of rroyce's reports from the auctions are always a barrel of laughs. How goofy can you get?
There is a lot of information from those auction reports regarding dealers and owner experiences that is missing. Anybody else smell a stinky rat regarding those "auction" reports?
spectraman is indeed accurate regarding the folly of disrespecting Hyundai and Kia. Robert Lutz of GM noted that the automakers he feared the most were the South Korean ones. It was a smart move by GM to swallow up Daewoo a few years back and the move has already started paying for itself. The success of the Aveo and the inroads into the Asian market for GM are two indcators of that.
#3279 of 3871 Re: Sentra Limited Edition in 2006? [allfiredup]
Nov 01, 2005 (5:44 am)
I *LOVE* my 03 Sentra 2.5LE! Seriously, it was a great combination when I got it in Jan 03. Head protecting side airbags, 4 wheel disc+ABS, 165 horses. Yes, its outdated now, and ripe for a redesign, what with its diminutive and useless cupholders and rear seat, as well as behind-the-times standard issue crash safety... but I've got 53K miles on it, no warranty repair items or unscheduled trips to the dealer (save for 2 recalls early on).
#3280 of 3871 Re: Sentra Limited Edition in 2006? [alpha01]
Nov 01, 2005 (9:41 am)
I think 165 hp and side head protecting airbags make up for the old design....
#3281 of 3871 Re: Sentra Limited Edition in 2006? [micweb]
Nov 01, 2005 (10:20 am)
... unless you are the one sitting in the back seat.
#3284 of 3871 Re: Sentra and Spectra? [pat]
Nov 01, 2005 (5:21 pm)
Suzuki Forenza- if it only drove as good as it looks...