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Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan
Jul 30, 2005 (7:21 am)
is scoring nicely with the Daewoo Kalos-Chevrolet Aveo small car.
Daewoo supplies Chevrolet with the Aveo subcompact car, of which 35,245 were sold in first half '05, a gain from 21,255 in the similar 2004 time period. The Aveo, which sports a "Low End Sedan-friendly" price of only $9995, is slated for a re-design for the 2006 model as Daewoo and its kit car exporting machine give GM a boost in the U.S. and China and around the globe.
A lot of us knew the Kalos-Aveo would work out, now didn't we? For those not around a couple two or three years ago, lots of Edmunds online regulars discussed Daewoo and it's impending collapse at length and ad naseum on this website. You can still look up the shut-down threads(displaying on your screen as READ-ONLY now) on Edmunds and read till your hearts content if you want, though. Bring some visine to your screen. We discussed Daewoo at length.
It seemed so obvious that the Daewoo Kalos would work out globally, even with GM running it's production (and Shanghai Motors of China and Suzuki Motors of Japan as a part GM Daewoo Auto & Technology Company). It will only grow more popular as ghastly prices stay high and possibly grow worse in the future.
#3176 of 3871 Re: Daewoo, I mean GM [iluvmysephia1]
Jul 30, 2005 (10:57 am)
I test drove a Suzuki Swift+ (same car as Aveo) earlier this week, and it was far and away the WORST new car I have driven in the last 10-15 years. The handling was marginal, it rattled from several locations, the head room was barely adequate, and it was utterly gutless (automatic). I have always owned small cars over the last 40 years, and had a '91 Swift, so I am used to this type of vehicle. The Accent and Echo hatchback are VASTLY superior IMO. Suzuki should be ashamed to be marketing this thing under the Suzuki name.
Aug 01, 2005 (7:36 am)
These cars have to be a joke. If they are really built to order, and not manufactured in the traditional sense, this car will be lucky to have sold 2,000 in year one and 500 in year two. How on earth to you have crumple zones on a car that's completely crumpled already?
#3178 of 3871 Let's see how THAT BABY scores ...
Aug 02, 2005 (10:44 am)
... in the new side-impact test with a 3,500-pound SUV!!!
It'll have to have ROOF AIRBAGS since the SUV will prolly just roll right over it!
Aug 02, 2005 (2:40 pm)
I you dont like the car, you dont have to buy it. Do you?
Aug 09, 2005 (6:41 am)
But this is a forum for opinions, and we sure will share 'em!
#3181 of 3871 Horrible story, yes ...
Aug 09, 2005 (7:11 am)
But does it say something for Mazda's safety? Read this and consider, in a head-on interstate collision between a Mazda and a Hyundai, 3 Hyundai occupants die and everyone in the Mazda survives ...
Granted, there are unanswered questions here ... namely, the model of each car and whether the Mazda's occupants were belted ... (we do know that the Hyundai's driver was belted but died, and the Mazda's driver -- belted or not -- survived). Variables or not, it looks like a real-world crash test with very different results between the two vehicles.
I'm interested in real-world crash test data, ever since I walked away from an accident in a 1992 Mazda Protege 13 years ago. That car only had motorized "passive restraint" belts -- no air bags back then -- yet the car was designed well enough to save my large body after hydroplaning at 45 mph into the rear end of a Volvo station wagon that was stopped at a traffic light.
#3182 of 3871 Re: Horrible story, yes ... [mdaffron]
Aug 09, 2005 (7:26 am)
Really not much info to go on here to draw any conclusions--except the rear passengers should have been belted. We don't even know what kind of cars--was it a Mazda6 or Millenia or 3 or what? Was it a Hyundai Accent or Elantra or pre-'06 Sonata (all 5+ year old designs) or '06 Sonata or what? What was the crash angle? Was it directly head-on or offset (i.e. aiming at the Hyundai's driver)?
#3183 of 3871 Agree with backy
Aug 09, 2005 (11:46 am)
That is a very sad and tragic story but it says nothing about the crashworthiness of either MAKE, especially given that there are virtually no specifics.
#3184 of 3871 Re: Horrible story, yes ... [backy]
Aug 09, 2005 (1:04 pm)
It looks like the Mazda was a white Mazda 6 model.
The only info I could find about the Hyundai is that it was a rental, and it was green. The 'rental' part suggests at least a late model. I have written the Orlando Sentinel reporter to see if she can share the model type.