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Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan
#2760 of 3871 Any opinions on how Aveo quality is shaking out?
Nov 16, 2004 (5:54 pm)
This article is almost a year old but I love the quote from Mike Allen:
"We dealt with quality right up front," says Mike Allen, vehicle line director for GM Daewoo Automotive Technology. "We gave them a quality target equal to Chevrolet's average, and then we gave them a stretch target of the best in segment, which is the Toyota Echo."
from USA today 1/7/204
I own an ECHO and I bought it because after the research that I did, it was and is my opinion that the ECHO is probably the most problem free of the little sedans. But I paid a premium for that reputation of quality... The 2004 Aveos and Rios are really inexpensive right now. We're thinking about getting an Aveo, an Accent or a Rio for my mother-in-law. The typical little old lady who only drives her car on the weekend to go shopping and to go to church. She's driving a Ford Fairmont that barely starts, barely runs, and barely stops.
Nov 16, 2004 (6:05 pm)
give him a ride to the station in the morning and a kiss good bye.
#2762 of 3871 irony about the Aveo...
Nov 16, 2004 (8:19 pm)
Although some other Chevrolet models have some better materials in their interiors, I would say that the Aveo's interior is assembled with more care and with tighter tolerances. Granted, we're still talking about a $10K car, but the build quality seems more impressive on the Aveo, relatively speaking, than in other GM models costing 2 or even 3 times as much. Anyone else agree with this?
#2763 of 3871 Re: irony about the Aveo... [jpryba]
Nov 16, 2004 (9:25 pm)
Yes, however, the quality of Chevy interiors is improving, e.g. Malibu, Equinox, and now the Cobalt.
Nov 18, 2004 (8:27 pm)
The Malibu's interior is growing on me. I've read reviews criticizing the Equinox's interior, though. Being based on the Saturn VUE, I'm fearing for the worst. The Cobalt's interior looks like it might actually be better than the Malibu's, though. The Cobalt is also based on the same platform as the Saturn ION, so if they can make the interior look light years ahead of that (with the ION getting some of those upgrades next year), then maybe the Equinox won't be so bad relative to the VUE when I finally get a chance to check it out.
Anyway, though, it's nice to see GM putting more attention into its smaller car interiors instead of ignoring them.
#2765 of 3871 I don't care about quality of interior too much
Nov 19, 2004 (8:20 pm)
I don't care about quality of interior too much on a low-end sedan. I'll admit it would be nice to have - but it's not something I'm willing to pay extra for on a commuter car.
Of course there are some issues of poor quality / poor design that are hard to ignore... The way the Kia Rio is designed - the window crank on the driver's side pokes my left knee - of course that's just me, but I had the same thing with my wife's Hyundai Excell.
In the Aveo and the ECHO - I can adjust the seat so that I can stretch my legs comfortably while driving - in the Rio, even with the seat all the way back I felt a little scrunched. I took the Rio for a 30 minute test drive and towards the end of it - my knees started aching (which is weird cuz I had that same problem with my wife's Excell) Actually, the Rio totally reminded me of the Excell.
Anyway, my point is there are some interior design issues which are important - and if I'm paying $30,000 for a car then I expect a beautiful high-quality interior, but for under $10,000 - I think you've already conceded that PRICE is the over-riding factor, and apart from functionality concerns, I just don't see interior quality as being that important.
Nov 21, 2004 (6:18 pm)
I just drove 4 and a half hours (Mammoth --> Los Angeles) at about 85mph in the Aveo. Got 34mpg, and was never uncomfortable. The car handled well in the snow and at high freeway speeds. It was a great experience, and I am very happy with the car.
Even better, it makes my Civic Si feel like a Corvette!
Oh, and I like the Aveo's interior - best in class.
Nov 22, 2004 (3:28 pm)
Are you saing that Aveo's interior is better then Mazda3 of Corolla's? Or among Accent-Rio-Aveo?
Nov 22, 2004 (9:55 pm)
Definitely the best of the Rio, Accent, Echo, and company.
The inside is very well put together - excellent build quality - but the materials and design are nothing like a Corolla or Mazda3.
#2769 of 3871 Re: lovetosavegas [muffin_man]
Nov 23, 2004 (4:24 pm)
I agree with that statement. This kinda brings back an issue that there are two car classes in this low-end sedans. There are sub-10K cars and there are sub-15K cars. But we usually know what we are talking about.