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Low End Sedans (under $16k)
3871 messages, Last post on Dec 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM
You are in the Sedans Forum.What is this discussion about? Toyota ECHO, Chevrolet Aveo, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, Honda Fit, Hyundai Accent, Toyota Yaris, Kia Spectra, Suzuki Forenza, Sedan
#2027 of 3871 Ownership costs by majorthomecho
Nov 14, 2002 (1:32 pm)
Yes, there is more to ownership costs than what your car's resale value is. The biggest day to day ownership cost is gasoline usage, but we already know where the 2003 Echo is in the low end lineup. It leads the pack.I went to fueleconomy.gov and did a comparison between the 2003 Echo, the 2003 Kia Rio, and the 2003 Hyundai Accent. Using the amount of miles my 2001 Echo is driven per year (about 25,000) as a guide, it would cost me over $300 per year more if I owned the Rio and over $200 more if I owned the Accent.
I don't know about you, but I have better things to do with my money.
But Backy if spending your money needlessly doesn't bother you, let me send you my address and you can send me some of that cash. ; )
To the person who asked why I didn't use the savings in gas money to buy a new computer, I would but I already use the savings for other things like going to an occasional touring Broadway musical. Next month I am taking my roommate to see Neil Diamond in concert.
#2028 of 3871 RE: Spectra by majorthomecho
Nov 14, 2002 (1:35 pm)
It could have been worse. You could have rented an older Rio with the smaller engine.When I get around to test driving the 2003 Rio, the new, stronger engine is one thing I am really looking forward to.
#2029 of 3871 To Backy about the 2003 Echo by majorthomecho
Nov 14, 2002 (1:38 pm)
Backy, you say that you have driven all of the 2003 models except for one. Would you tell us what you thought of the changes to the Echo? Also, how was the Echo equipped? The Echo I test drove had the standard 14" tires. I wonder how much of a difference the optional 15" tires with the half inch lowering will have on the driving feel.#2030 of 3871 Driving the ECHO by backy
Nov 14, 2002 (5:23 pm)
Major, I'll be glad to answer your question about my drive of the ECHO if you wouldn't mind first answering my question to you from several posts ago about how you liked your drive of the Elantra GLS and GT, which I assume you have driven because you have stated that the ECHO is the best low-end car.#2031 of 3871 Costs by backy
Nov 14, 2002 (5:35 pm)
Actually, for people like me who don't drive that much, depreciation is the biggest cost of ownership, at least in a car's early years. Then it's probably either gas or insurance, depending on how much you pay for insurance.I know that some cars like my Elantra don't get the highest mpg, although I think the 28-29 mpg I average for in-town driving is pretty good considering the car's power and size. But when I factor in the lower initial cost compared to alternatives with higher mpg like the Civic, Corolla, and ECHO, I make out quite well financially. The same lower initial cost helps me at the bank. Yes, I may not have as much equity in my car, but that's because I put a lot less into it up front--meaning that money is already in the bank, or is available for a new computer, concerts, or whatever. So maybe I won't need to take out a loan, since I already have the extra cash.
#2032 of 3871 Wow... by shrique
Nov 20, 2002 (2:33 pm)
you guys killed off a good convo.
So has anyone looked at the new Toyota Scion cars? They are supposed to be pretty cheap. I'm not sure how cheap but the target is under $18k. I would assume that you eventually could get some cheaper than that. The first entry into that brand is the bbx. Looks ugly. Anyone seen one in person at an auto show or something?
http://www.edmunds.com/future/2003/scion/bbx/4drsuv/preview.html
#2033 of 3871 Scion by backy
Nov 20, 2002 (10:22 pm)
They aren't for sale yet, are they? My local auto show isn't until March.P.S. Which convo did we "kill off"? The last thread may not be done; Majorthom is pretty busy these days and has said he may not be able to post regularly.
#2034 of 3871 next year by nippononly
Nov 21, 2002 (12:23 am)
Scion comes out in California next June. Rest of the country six months later, or something like that.#2035 of 3871 It may not be done.... by shrique
Nov 21, 2002 (10:40 am)
but everyone else that was posting except for you two stopped when you guys started going back and forth with multiple posts from each of you. I think the rest of us didn't feel like we had anything to contribute to your argument about the Echo.Scion: I was hoping that maybe someone saw a prototype or something an an autoshow. I'm Hopefully going to be going to NAIAS this January. I'm going to try and bring a digital camera and get some good photos .
#2036 of 3871 shrique by backy
Nov 21, 2002 (6:27 pm)
Just because you don't want to contribute to one thread doesn't mean you (or anyone else) can't start a thread on something else--like Scion for example. We could use some posts from you and others on different topics to open this board up some. Where are all the low-end car lovers????To POST a message, please
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