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128 messages, Last post on Oct 22, 2009 at 1:17 PM
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in immaculate shape. anybody know what this thing is worth?? thx scott |
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Determine the Value of your car right here. Second opinions welcome, plus you can ask the car salespeople over in the Real-World Trade-In Values discussion. Steve, Host |
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Certainly the styling is subjective, so any discussion on that is pointless. Most people like the styling, but as Abe Lincoln once said, "You can't please all of the people all of the time". The BMW engine is a legacy of the ownership of Land Rover by BMW when the current version was designed. I'm sure that you will see Jaguar engines in the Range Rover sometime in the future. As far as the cost of the vehicle and people off-roading them, the 1997 Range Rover had an MSRP of $55,500 (4.0 SE) or 63,000 (4.6 HSE). The same criticism was levelled then, that it was too expensive to off-road, although you certainly had no problem with taking yours off road (which is commendable, that is where the strength of the vehicle lies). In 1997 Land Rover NA sold 6,826 vehicles in the US. By 2002 the price of the 4.6 HSE had risen to 68,000 and Land Rover NA sold 3,927. The 2003 Range Rover had an MSRP of 71,300 and Land Rover NA sold 13,834 Range Rovers, by far the most ever. Obviously the market finds this vehicle desirable and worth the added cost. From reports of attendance at LR dealer wheels events, there are many customers who have no problem taking the current vehicle off-road. |
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Replying to: mbi (May 24, 2001 7:48 am) |
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New European pedestrian safety regulations WILL affect the styling of new European cars. For example, the next Jaguar XK will use the new XJ's aluminum chassis and will have to comply with those new regulations. Detroit already makes diesels. Cummins I-6 turbodiesel powers big Dodge pickup trucks. "The Cummins 610 Turbo Diesel, available on 2005 models, is more powerful, and particulates and nitrogen oxides (NOx) have been reduced to meet all states' emission standards - even California's. The piston combustion bowl and a high-flow, electronically controlled waste-gated turbocharger match boost pressure with engine needs to reduce emissions. This solution does not require exhaust gas recirculation, avoiding the need for over 50 components. More to the point for most owners, the 610 has, appropriately, 610 lb.-ft. (827 N•m) of torque starting at 1,600 rpm [and 325 horsepower]. The Cummins turbodiesel also provides an average of 350,000 miles before an overhaul is needed, thanks partly to gallery cooled, high-strength aluminum pistons; gallery cooled, high-strength aluminum pistons, high-strength Inconel® exhaust valves and high-cobalt Stellite® exhaust valve seats, a high-strength exhaust manifold with multi-layer gasket between head and manifold; and forged steel, fracture-split connecting rods. The Cummins 610 is quieter due to many noise reduction systems, including pilot injection - a short burst of fuel before the main injection which reduces the spike in combustion pressure for dramatically quieter combustion." - from http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/ram-engine.html check out http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/applications/ram_cummins600.jsp  GM has a great 4.2 liter 275 hp I-6 in their mid-size SUVs. They should put it in their compact pickup trucks and the new 2007 Silverado. Here it is.  Low-sulphur diesel fuel will pollute less when it comes here by next year. Ford improved their V-8 and V-10 engines for the 2005 Superduty. |
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Replying to: miked03 (Oct 05, 2003 7:00 pm) New Ford diesel engine for Europe in 2006 I believe. Haven't heard about the Defender coming back to the States. |
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Replying to: simmo (May 05, 2005 9:56 am) If you have some news on the next diesel engine and D110 MJ2006 please keep me posted. Thanks from Germany, Bernd |
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I just got back from europe where I saw that defenders are still sold. I did not know this! This one right here is a 2005 and had 2k miles on it and was going for 33k EUROS. Has a 2.5 Liter diesel engine with 130HP I think. Is there no way to get this vehicle legal in the US? 
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Replying to: mm450exc (Jun 24, 2005 9:46 am) the following at East Coast Rover: http://www.eastcoastrover.com/FAQ.html
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