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Acura CL, Acura, Auto Body, Paint, Sedan
Nov 09, 2001 (10:07 am)
hello. i was reading the posts regarding mpg for the cl. i have a 2001 cl premium with 3,100
miles on it. after each fill up i figure out my mpg. i have had as low as 24 mpg and as high as 29
mpg. usually i average 27. i don't fill up until the yellow light indicates a low fuel level. usually
i pump in 15 gallons, so there's 2 gallons in the tank before the refuel. i can drive 400 plus miles
on a tank. i recall the low mpg came during the hot summer and i used the air conditioner very
frequently. i'm not a lead foot. i do most of my driving on the highway. i usually drive in the sport
shift mode. i anticipate even higher miles per gallon because i feel my car isn't broken in as yet. i say this because my previous honda civics and acura integra achieved better fuel economy than the figures posted on the sticker. i expect to get 30 mpg. i am surprised that some of you are getting lower figures.
Nov 17, 2001 (9:09 pm)
I own a 2001 TL. does any one know what Acura did to increase the horse power on the 2002 S? Is it just a computer chip change?
Dec 01, 2001 (9:35 am)
tl-s has a dual stage intake manifold, freer flowing exhaust, larger throttle body, higher compression ratio, and a couple other things here and there. it's not even close to a computer chip change.
go to tl-s discussion forum for more questions on the tl-s.
#42 of 71 2001 CL-S tranny went to hell just shy of 45K miles
Dec 19, 2001 (8:53 pm)
this is my third acura and easily my most disappointing experience--i previously had an '89 integra and an '87 legend, both of which were great cars. based on my experience with acura, i figured that the CL-S would be a great deal.
little things started surfacing on the car, including a pulley that made noise and had to be replaced before the 7,500-mile mark. also, the moonroof has continued to creak even after the dealer has inspected, resealed, and reinstalled the moonroof.
the final straw came two weeks ago, when the tranny started to hunt for gears, shifting VERY abruptly. i figured that i would be able to get home and then drop off the car at the dealer first thing the next morning. no such luck--the tranny got stuck in third gear, and i had to drive the car back to the dealer (about 15 miles away) in stop/go traffic on a friday afternoon...all while being stuck in third gear. imagine going from 0 to 20 mph in third--guess i should be thankful that it didn't get stuck in first.
anyway, i experienced much of the same frustration with acura. of course they apologized, but only after two angry phone calls to their headquarters in torrance, california, did i finally get them to extend the warranty to 75,000 miles.
the car has a remanufactured tranny in it now, and i'm probably going to be looking at BMW's in the next few months.
sorry, but this car has been a big letdown in terms of reliability. too bad--it's been a very fun car to drive otherwise.
#43 of 71 stuck in 3rd, huh?
Dec 20, 2001 (2:55 pm)
so, how often did you abuse that sport shift? How do you know that it "stuck" in third?
#44 of 71 CL -- Acura salesman's view
Jan 03, 2002 (8:39 pm)
I sell cars for an Acura dealer here in NJ. Truthfully, I am not very impressed with the 3.2 CL or CL-S. It does not have the same high quality feel that the other Acuras have. I thought there is a lot of wind noise from the moon roof (even when closed but the sun shade is open). I find it has less power, less precise handling, and a harsher/noisier ride when compared to the 3.2 TL. The 2 cars are very similar, with the major difference being 2 doors (CL)vs 4 doors (TL). This is my 2 cents worth.
As a word of advice for those leasing. If you are having the paint problesm. make sure you document everything, especially any communications with Acura. You don't want to be held responsible for this problem and then be charged $1000's when you turn the cars in at the end of your lease.
Jan 03, 2002 (9:47 pm)
If carmakers had balls they'd replace, immediately, defective products. A defective paint job on a car is defective protective coating. Once the little peeling begins, the owner is never comfortable with the vehicle. Reading all of these posts puts a new twist on the term 'anxiety'. I think the guy with the Acura did the right thing getting rid of it, though I would have sued Honda for a replacement as they obviously sold a pig. I think imbro is on the right track looking for a BMW but I wouldn't spend a whole pile of dough on one at the outset. I have an '84 318i that has 265000 miles on it and my wife has put 100000 on it with her horrible driving habits, giving me testament to BMW durability. I have not been the best dad to that car and it's given me driving pleasure and safety for 5 years. I paid 5 grand for it and have probably put 5 grand into it and it's still a better car than most new 15000 dollar tin cans out there (witness: Toyota Corolla). Years ago I owned a little Toyota pickup with a door that couldn't have been more than 1.5 inches thick and the door clasp that did not look like the greatest locking device for the task. When I looked at the very first Acuras out of curiosity I opened the door and, lo and behold!, there was the very same door latch as on my low-end Toyota pickup. I looked no further.
Jan 06, 2002 (10:04 pm)
how is it possible that the CL has LESS power than the TL? They have the same powertrain and weigh essentially the same.... As far as the quality of "feel" that just might be because Acura had to cut corners to put in a lot and charge less.
#47 of 71 2001 Acura CL-S rotar problems
Jan 17, 2002 (11:07 am)
Has anyone else had problems with their rotars? I purchased my car when they first came out and it has 32K miles. The rotars have been turned TWICE! I have gone back and forth with the dealership and Acura trying to get them to replace the rotars but they will not. The warranty has paid for the turning. I think this is crazy. I am a normal driver. No crazy driving. They say the brake pads are fine. Something is not right!
Jan 17, 2002 (11:52 am)
just make sure that they don't charge you an arm and a leg for it... you might want to check with the guys over at acura-cl.com