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I recently pruchased a 2001 TT quattro. The insert in the maintainence manual lists the following option codes for the car. Any know where I can find a list of what these mean? X9A, BOA,CC8,GOL, H6G, J1L, MS4, Q1D, L38, 1AT, 1G9, 2ZN, 1N4, 5RW, 5SG, T6B, 0YR, 4UG, 0G4, 8UQ, 8GL, 8RY, 1KF, 1LT, 3FN, IJT. |
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I have heard or read every single excuse by mechanics in the USA and Great Britain: front brake squeal is "normal", and Europeans expect brake squeal on a "high performance" car often run on a no-speed-limit Autobahn. The TT is a sporty-LOOKING car but was built for street driving, not racing on a track. Audi has built a "high performance" R8 which is regularly driven on tracks - or “no speed limit” Autobahns existing in Germany and Austria. I have had the TT to the dealer repair shop a total of 4 times. After the 4th time, I called Audi USA for advice. The Audi rep. called the dealer and the Audi rep. reported back to me that the dealer had utilized all possible repairs - referencing the TSB #46 - the 1997 and 2009 versions of which are identical - and could do nothing more. If a new car has a defect that the dealer refuses to, or cannot, fix within 2 years or 18,000 miles - mine has <7,000 - a New York resident-purchaser can seek arbitration through the NYS New Car Lemon Law. I did so. Audi sent an aged "Arb. Analyst" from Michigan - he told me he was a “mouth-piece” for several manufacturers. He recited the Audi excuse litany PLUS: 1) produced an Internet survey instrument in which I purportedly praised Audi service - a complete fabrication, 2) insisted that my car had ceramic brakes - false, the brake pads are bimetallic - ie, a non-metal matrix with embedded iron-based metal filings - which accounts for the grooves and reddish RUST on the rotors, and black dust spray on the $465 wheels, and 3) he asserted that the intense, high decibel squealing-shrieking does not devalue the car FOR ME!! Curiously, both the 1997 and 2009 Audi TSB are titled “BRAKE SQUEAL”, while the mechanics and the “Arb. Analyst” referred to it as “squeak”. The Arb. Analyst actually stated that “one man’s noise, is not everyone’s noise”!! Had I known this was Audi’s approach to purchasers of $50,000 cars, and remembered Audi’s history going back to the 80s when, among other complaints, it couldn't explain unintended acceleration until after a long term class-action law suit ran its course in favor of the class, I would not have considered Audi. I would recommend anyone considering an Audi TT 3.2 liter Quattro to get some contractual assurance - beyond the cheap 1 year maintenance warranty - that defects would be repaired or the purchase price refunded. The hyped, vaunted "German engineering" is meaningless if a simple brake repair cannot be effected. I don't know the decision of the NY State Lemon Law arbitrator as yet, but I will report back. Should I win, it is likely Audi Lawyers will appeal. And so it goes. |
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But back in 2002 after driving Mercedes for the 12 years prior (a 1990 300E & a 1998 CLK 320), my Mom decided she HAD to have an AWD car. At the time the A6 was the only game in town. The Tiptronic transmission was always jerky & never shifted smooth. The dealer's service department (Palisades Audi) was worse than awful & kept telling my Mom that she was: imagining it, it has to learn how you drive, has to have the software reprogrammed, they all do that. Everytime she brought the car in for service was a 3-4 week wait if she wanted a loaner car. She finally set up an appointment with a regional service rep to drive the car to see what the problem was. He backed the car out of a parking spot & drove maybe 15 feet to another parking spot, got out of the car, & told my Mom that the car drives fine. She's been driving BMWs ever since the lease on the Audi was up and COULD NOT BE HAPPIER. |
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Reporting back. An Arbitrator appointed by the NY State Attorney General has found that my 2008 Audi TT 3.2 L Quattro has a serious defect, an ear-splitting squeal emitted by the front brakes, and declared the car a Lemon. I was awarded the nearly $50,000 purchase price. It is now up to Audi USA and its dealer Maguire Audi, Ithaca, NY, to pay up, take their defective car back, and try to salvage its image - and its 'market share'. Maguire advertizes repeatedly that if one finds a lower price for one of its cars in upstate New York, they will give the customer $5,000 and the keys to the new car, free of charge!! Wow, eh!! “5 G’s and the keys"!! Maguire declined to FIX my brakes after 4 failed attempts. They had followed their TSB #46, titled "Brake Squeal" - unchanged in 11 years - and refused to go beyond their TSB. Just keep telling the consumer that high-pitched brake-squealing is normal!! Maybe NOW they'll step up to the plate, take back their defective car, and refund my purchase price (I paid up front in full). Maguire sells 5 foreign makes including VW, Audi, Toyota, Subaru, and Volvo, plus it is a GM and Ford-Nissan dealer. The Chrysler dealership was closed in the Chrysler bankruptcy. If GM does likewise, Maguire may see its new car monopoly become an albatross. Given the contempt with which I was treated, I can hardly be expected to feel any sympathy. |
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The Maguire Audi dealership in Ithaca, New York, faced with a Lemon Law arbitration decision favoring me, refunded my purchase price in full ... except they wanted to deduct the value of wheel scrapings on 3 of the 4 alloy wheels. I let them have their oz of flesh regardless that 2 of the 4 wheels were scraped while the Lemon Law Arbitration proceedings were in progress. I also GAVE the dealer 4 winter tires on original equipment Audi wheels ... cost ~$2000. I had no further use for them, nor DO I have any further use for Maguire's multiple dealerships in Ithaca. Give me the run around once, my stupid fault. Give me the runaround twice or more, without doubt, their fault. I quickly bought a 2009 Infiniti G37x AWD coupe with ALL the trimmings for a few thousand less than the original price of the 2008 Audi TTS Hatchback. After 18 months of hassle and outright lies about the Audi brake shrieking fiasco, I'm reasonably pacified. And the Infiniti (Nissan parent) is a dream machine. Based on my experience with Maguire, I cannot in conscience recommend anyone buy an Audi from Maguire Ithaca, and I would caution about ANY purchase from a Maguire dealership in Ithaca without IRONCLAD guarantees regarding repairs IN A CAR STILL UNDER WARRANTY!! |
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Has anyone removed the rear axle on a quattro? I have mine torn down to replace rear bearings and can't get the axles to break loose from the trans coupler. All coupler bolts are removed but that is as far as I can go. Any help would be appreciated.
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| For all TT owners. You should periodically flush the drains in the floor pan of your convertible to keep them from stopping up. After a few years, dirt, leaves etc. will stop them up and cause water to pool in the pan beneath very expensive, moisture sensitive, comfort control module. Personal experience; my '02 CCM failed and the dealership blamed it on a tear in the rubber gasket just behind the pass. door and said I needed a new top, in addition to the $800+ for the CCM. I replaced the top at a local trim shop and the owner told me that the drains had been clogged for quite a while and that it was his opinion that was the cause for CCM failure. If drains had been clear, he said water from the tear would have flowed straight to the drains and not pooled to slosh around and wet the CCM. | |
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Replying to: whitr (Jun 20, 2009 10:21 pm) I have an 03 TT Coupe and have a roaring in the rear of the car, especially over 70 mph. I don't think it is the tires (new Michelin's). When the back seats are up it is muffled to some extent. Any ideas, all input will be appreciated.
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Replying to: belennm (Aug 28, 2009 4:37 am) |
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