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Nissan Maxima, Sedan
#842 of 859 Re: 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV [simmer]
Oct 03, 2012 (3:20 pm)
Yes, Simmer. I am going to consult an attorney as our 2011 Acadia had 25,688 miles on it and the 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV had 6499 miles on it. A beautiful car that is true. But it caused me serious back pain (aggravated an old back injury that had not bothered me in many years) Had we test driven the vehicle I may have found this out before the purchase but it was late (we did not get out the dealership until 10:00 pm and no one was there except the sales manager (who left before the sales woman and an office clerk) oh, and the janitor... so no test drive. We did not get the dealer prep and all of the stuff that was part of our agreement in the contract to purchase. Once I realized (and it was quickly) that the car caused severe back pain I contacted them to tell them.. They wanted to put us in a Hyundai (a $16,000.00 vehicle) even less than we started because the price of the Maxima was $27,000.00 and change. with our trade and $5000.00 dollars... now they are trying to further rip us off and will not hear of a trade back for our vehicle (which they still have) unless we give them the Maxima back (that they themselves valued greater than our Acadia) plus MORE money... Now how the heck did that happen? All of a sudden in just a few days our Acadia surpassed the value of the Maxima thousands of dollars. Remember the Maxima is just sitting not being driven. I am so disgusted. But I used to work for an attorney and know that they have breeched the contract and agreement and charged us for services we did not receive (a fraud) and they have either committed a fraud in the beginning by over valuing their Maxima or now by undervaluing the Maxima and upping the value of our Acadia to get more money out of us. I am a writer and have been published in 3 different books as to date and am quite sure any and several newspapers would print a story for me about the deceitful business practices we have encountered. I know my way around the media and know of several attorneys who are willing to help to resolve this problem. Not to mention I have a product that I cannot use and they have not even fulfilled their end of the contract and that time has passed for them to do so and are ignoring the resolve I asked for. Trade back and they keep some of the money but give some back (I feel half is more than fair, otherwise it could cost them more in the long run for all the run around. Thank you for your support and information! It is good to know that there are people out there who offer support.
#843 of 859 Re: 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV [deonna]
Oct 04, 2012 (9:42 am)
Here is an update as of today. Dean (the sales manager) at Firkins Nissan in Bradenton, FL contacted my husband today and told him that we could trade the Nissan Maxima back for our GMC Acadia if we give him an additional $2000.00! This is after he valued his Nissan Maxima at $27000.00 just days ago and our GMC Acadia at around $23,000.00 and we had to give nearly $5000.00 dollars difference now this CROOK wants $2000.00 more to go back to where we started???? Bernie Madoff was an angel compared to Firkins Nissan! That is nearly $7000.00 they are trying to scam us out of, holy cow. I am beyond angry. I contacted our attorney and have also made contact with our local news who does "Call for Action" against business such as these. And this is about to get ugly and very public. I have been robbed and the thief is trying to do it again. And also, this treasure of a man, has only been there for two weeks.... now if the bosses are backing this crime (because that is exactly what it it) I have written values from 3 different auto dealerships of the Nissan Maxima (remember has been sitting and not driven) for $20,000.00 now are they all lying or was Dean with FIRKINS NISSAN at Bradenton, FL? Days after he valued his Maxima at $27,000.00
Breech of contract, Fraud and deceptive business practices are all over this transaction. Dean tried to tell my husband today that he did not value the Maxima at $27000.00 but like $23,000.00 LIAR! I have that right in front of me in the paperwork... Dean, you must learn to remember your lies.... I will not allow these people to walk all over us and take advantage of us. They give other dealerships a very bad name. If this is the sales manager's fault alone then the dealership should make it right but we have not heard a word from the owners. And you are only as good as the people who work for you, perhaps Dean needs to be relieved of his job.... Firkins does NOT put the customer first and their satisfaction as their ads all say... they took down a post I made on their facebook page about our experience... they took it down this morning but I did copy it.... They only want the positive feedback not the negative... how deceptive is that? They pick and choose what they want the public to know....
#844 of 859 Re: 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV [deonna]
Oct 04, 2012 (11:33 am)
They are calling your bluff. Carry forward. They do have a right to take as much from you as they can, (free market) If you purchase a new car for list price as an example, and drive it off the lot, it will drop in value immediately. (its inflated when you buy it, thats thier job, right or wrong) its not that they have to charge you what they owe on it. Your might be better off selling it for 27K and taking a smaller loss. If there are laws to protect the consumer, trial period , right of recission, you may have a good stand, but if it does exist, its a limited time period. Get your lawyer working on it, know your rights. A quick search just now on Florida and right to rescission (sp?) tells me if you do have a case at all, you have three days only to exercise that right. They are stalling, or the time has already expired. Sorry for your situation, but its a nice car and should sell for 25K plus private sale. (a 2000 loss).
#845 of 859 Re: 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV [simmer]
Oct 04, 2012 (12:22 pm)
Simmer, I am not giving up for sure. But I have had three dealers who have given me written value of this Maxima $20,000.00 and the highest $21,000.00 just days after the deal in which the sales manager valued the car at nearly $28,000. in writing. Both were used vehicles so I can't see a drop that fast in that amount. The other dealerships have told us we were out right lied to about the value on both. Imagine a car salesman lying to us?
I have an attorney on it and the local news. So we will see what happens now. I hope to keep others from being taken advantage of by them for sure. Bad business is bad business and they should change their slogan about the customer satisfaction. Thanks for the imput and support. I would love to sell it outright or trade it but not at a $8000.00 loss
#846 of 859 Re: 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV [simmer]
Oct 04, 2012 (12:35 pm)
Simmer! Just talked to the general manager Randy Santos, and he is going to give us our Acadia back with a full refund or our money! My husband is going in tomorrow to switch out autos! Very happy. Guess that no one wants to go to court or be on the news, shame on that sales manager, Dean;;; But thank you for your support and encouraging me to move forward and not give up. Thanks to the general manager for making this right!
#847 of 859 Re: Did I Get A Good Lease Deal? [dmac34]
Oct 11, 2012 (7:51 am)
You did pretty good, I got an 11 Maxima Premium Crimson Black MSRP 41k on lease for $350 a month with $1500 down for 39 months 12k miles year. Buy out is $22,400 but I paid a little more upfront with less miles allowance for the lower payment. About the same overall cost as you.
#848 of 859 Re: Did I Get A Good Lease Deal? [dmac34]
Oct 11, 2012 (7:57 am)
I forgot to mention I got the tech package also. I've been pretty happy with the deal. A guy in my work was paying $472 for an 09 base SV. Thats $4,758 more and didnt get the car fully loaded. oof.
#849 of 859 Re: 2011 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SV [deonna]
Oct 11, 2012 (8:57 am)
Good for you. I am glad you got justice here. The sales manager was out of line. (good guy bad guy routine? we wont really know) They would have taken your money had you not pushed. Many, many people will not. Its a numbers game for sales people. They get ahead by making thier numbers and get rewarded for breaking thier numbers. Cars, appliences, most any item that has a sales force tends to follow the same rules. Saturn used to be the one who broke that trend (or were much publicised for doing it, I have no experience with them personally)
In a case such as yours, the Internet is your tool.
As much as I do love my Maxima, the Acura was my next choice. Personally I am not a follower, so no Toyotas or Iphones for me
#850 of 859 2012 3.5S w/ Limited Edition Package
Oct 19, 2012 (3:06 pm)
The lowest the dealership is willing to go on the 3.5S with LE package is $26,900. This price includes the Nissan rebate of $4K. The Sticker price is $34,435. Doing the math, they are discounting this vehicle $7,535 off sticker price. The dealership is located in the Boston, MA area.
Is this a reasonable price to pay? Any responses are greatly appreciated!
#851 of 859 Re: 2012 3.5S w/ Limited Edition Package [spacercable]
Oct 20, 2012 (7:26 am)
That sounds like a good deal depending on the options. I did not research, what does the LE come with? Leather? sport wheels? etc? Im from Ma. myself and did a lot of research last year at this time. Have a good handle on the non sport max. there were a few reasons I didnt buy the S but price wise, the S is much less money. Cars.com lists 2012 max_S at around 30-32K so it sounds like a very good price. If you decide to buy, def check it out with a mechanic before you buy. A lot of cars get purchased at auction and therefore dealers can still make a tidy profit from a ar similar to yours. You have to make sure its not been hit and repaired, and if so, was it repaired right (as in minor hit) it may still be worth pursueing regarless IF it was an auction car. Car fax will help but not always do they get reported. Thats where a good mechanic can look it over and find things you dont see. Which dealer is this? I have had some experience with several in MA all the way into Boston too. My mechanic would look a car like this over for no cost. You may get a $25-30 charge to have someone do this but its well worth it. Never ever trust a dealer.