SVT Ford Focus vs. Subaru Impreza WRX - READ ONLY

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#7 of 26 RSX by klkrause

May 10, 2001 (10:07 am)

The reasons to consider the RSX are numerous: Style (I like the looks of the RSX better than either the Focus or WRX), Interior (the interior is nicer than both), Reliability (the reliability for Acuras is excellent, even better than Subaru), resale value (the Integra has had among the highest resale value of cars in this price range), 6-speed manual trans (the Focus SVT has this but not the WRX), and other reasons.

AWD is great, as is a 0-60 less than 6 seconds, but they're not the only things I consider in a new vehicle. The RSX sounds like it handles like it's on rails, though it would be a different feel than with the WRX.

The biggest advantage to the Focus SVT is probably the price. And price is important, too! It's not always about how much one can "afford," but about how much one is willing to spend.

Below is a link to the picture gallery at Ford's SVT website. There are some interior pictures, as well:

http://www.svt.ford.com/focus_gallery.html

#8 of 26 WRX wagon... by barresa62

May 10, 2001 (10:33 am)

all the way baby!! Leave the RX and SVT to their own comparison. Until they get AWD, there is no comparison. (IMHO) BTW, just because you can compare any car in a post does not make them, in fact, comparable.
 
My advice is to compare AWD to AWD vehicles.
 
Stephen,
(to rework the quote from the Aztek guy over on that board..)
"Wearing that WRX smile"

#9 of 26 Comparable, baressa62 by klkrause

May 10, 2001 (11:36 am)

No car is truly comparable using your logic, then. It's not a matter of the drive system or engine, but the people who are interested in the vehicles ...
 
This forum is a decent comparison when you think of the vehicles which will be considered by people shopping the $20-$25k small, sporty vehicle range.

#10 of 26 gbrozen - fitting in a hatchback by silver_bullet

May 10, 2001 (11:53 am)

I owned a Civic hatch once, and you are correct - very cramped inside. Have you sat in the ZX3? It is extremely roomy inside. I find the longer doors of a two-door better suited to my frame; it's just easier to get into and out of. With most four-doors (including the WRX), by the time I adjust the seat back far enough (I've got looong legs), the B pillar is right next to my head! Talk about a visibility problem
 
My bike fits neatly INSIDE the cargo area of the ZX3 - don't try this with the WRX either. As far as the interior goes, the SVT will use many of the components of the European Focus RS, including the Eurocar's improved seats sporting black leather bolsters with contrasting blue or red cloth seating areas. The WRX seats are terrific as well, although the Subaru cloth isn't to everyone's taste.
 
RSX? The Type S is going to be serious money - much more than the SVT.

#11 of 26 by revdrluv

May 10, 2001 (1:08 pm)

I heard about an AWD turbo charged focus ford was developing, any one know if the SVT is all we are going to get or could their be an even hotter focus. If only the WRC was popular here our chances of getting a model like that would be much better.

#12 of 26 Klkrause.... by barresa62

May 10, 2001 (1:48 pm)

yes, you're right if you take my "logic" to the nth degree (not my intention, BTW). I do understand and agree (mostly) w/your point. My point is that AWD is a solid performance value(especially safety wise)that isn't easily comparable to FWD or RWD. After owing all three types of setups I can attest to this. My comment (somewhat tongue in cheek) was for people to keep comparisons in perspective. It's sort of the apples to apples, oranges to oranges comparison thing. If you still don't get my point just look at some comparison posts throughout the Edmunds site....see what I mean?
 
Cheers,
Stephen

#13 of 26 Apples and Oranges by klkrause

May 10, 2001 (2:06 pm)

Fine, fine ... they are different. But those who would consider them both as a possible purchase will still compare them and that was my point. Therefore, a valid comparison for the point of those who are shopping these vehicles.

#14 of 26 Sold On The WRX by cwaligora

May 10, 2001 (4:21 pm)

I was going to put an order in for a Focus SVT, but they weren't accepting any orders at the time. It was a step down I was going to have to make after the Mercury Cougar S I ordered never got produced. When I found out about the WRX, and test drove one, the Focus became yesterdays news. There are so many cars about to come out that are comparable to the Focus SVT's performance in the compact front wheel drive 170-180HP catagory, that I feel I need to move up to something better to get a real bang for my buck(and feed my ego). The WRX not only leaves all those boy racers behind, it can run with or better cars that cost $30K or more (sub 6 sec. 0-60 times). It also has AWD and a rally racing bread suspension that is perfect for Michigan winters and potholed roads. I shopped around these Town Halls and the i-club web site for the dealers who are willing to go below MSRP and I'm putting in my order. For about $4000 down I can keep my monthly payments at about where they would be for a fully optioned Focus SVT, which will reportedly run at about the $20K range. I actually like sport coupes better, but my 1990 Ford Probe GT of which I am the original owner will not hold out long enough for me to see if the Subaru SVX will debut in 2003 as rumored by Motor Trend. My WRX will be a black 5spd with the following options: Rear spoiler, air filtration, armrest extention, premium sound package 1, security upgrade and performance gauge pack. I will post the dealers I shopped next week in a separate posting in the Subaru Impreza WRX Sedan thread after I place my order.

#15 of 26 barresa62 by revdrluv

May 10, 2001 (4:27 pm)

They are both sport compacts right? Within a similar price range? Ok the SVT will be much less but those shopping for one would most likely consider or at least think about and possibly test drive the other. Comparable? Yes absolutely.
I get your point about "getting comparisons in perspective" but the is far from out of perspective. Comparing a focus SVT to an Audi S4 would be out of perspective. But the SVT is still comparable to a WRX, even though it is more mechanically similar to the S4, simply for its price and target audience.
 
Anyway on with the discusion

#16 of 26 by revdrluv

May 10, 2001 (5:08 pm)

If it would make you feel better to compare more similar cars I just made a new discussion about all the new performance hatches that are out or coming soon. Check it out I called it the hottest hatch

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