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#306 of 2735 riez
Jul 01, 2003 (8:26 am)
I agree with you with regards to required maintenance-and yes, I'll let the dealer install wiper blades if I don't have to pay(the BMW Store used to include them as part of InspectionI/II). That said, more than a few dealers charge ridiculous prices for accessory installation; I know of one dealer who charges $800 for purchase and installation of the Alpine CD changer. On top of that, they go on to lie outright and tell the poor schmuck that the warranty is void in the case of a DIY install. In contrast, I installed the BMW Keyless Entry/Alarm in my 1995 Club Sport back in 1996. The control unit turned out to be one of a number of units that were prone to false alarms. I went back to the BMW Store to exchange it for the new improved version and I was told to wait until the next Inspection and-since the car was still under warranty-they would install the upgraded unit for free. YMMV, but unless the owner is a complete mechanical moron,I can't see how a DIY mud guard install would void the BMW warranty. Of course, I do know of one dealer in the Northeast who combs the BMW CCA local chapter newsletter for Autocross results so that they can deny warranty coverage in case one of the auto-x competitors shows up in the service department... Who said all the ex-Nazis live in Argentina???
#307 of 2735 3m clear protective covering
Jul 01, 2003 (7:14 pm)
Thanks for the advice on the mud flaps. Rather than putting them on, I am now considering the 3m clear protective covering for the front, mirrors, and around the wheel wells. Has anyone used that product and do you have any comments? I'm told it is barely noticeable, won't yellow or damage finish and can be removed without damage. I'm also told it's better than a hood mask. Some people have even installed it on the lower door jam where shoes scratch the finish when entering/exiting the vehicle. What do you all think?
#308 of 2735 3m covering (scotchcal)
Jul 01, 2003 (8:05 pm)
1stbmw540, I installed the X-pel 3M front end and bumper kits on my 03 530i about a month ago. So far, I'm very pleased with them. The plastic is barely noticeable and seems to have protected the front of the car completely so far. The front end kit wasn't difficult, but I had some trouble with lower part of the bumper kit. I might go with professional installation if you decide to go that route.
Jul 02, 2003 (4:06 am)
Thanks much for the advice. I think I will have it installed professionally. The cost is minimal compared with the stress level
#310 of 2735 Engine overheating--528i
Jul 02, 2003 (7:35 am)
Any help would be appreciated with this problem. We recently purchased a 2000 528i with manual. At idle it overheats, to the point where if the car doesn't get moving again the gauge goes into the red zone. Overheating doesn't seem to occur at higher speeds. The dealer checked it out once--after it overheated and required a flat bed transport to the dealer--and replaced the thermostat. More recently the chief mechanic said via phone that the car has two fans, one with the engine and one in the very front that comes on with air-conditioning or if the car overheats. He says both checked out OK before and we have heard the front fan come on a few times ourselves (very noisy). Anyone have any experience with this problem? My wife needs to take the car on a long trip early tomorrow (the dealer can't look at the car again until tomorrow) and this problem makes her (and me!) nervous. Thanks for whatever help you can provide!
#311 of 2735 3M Tape and Pricing
Jul 02, 2003 (8:24 am)
Good info - I wonder if it will show up "even less" on a black car?
Ball park - what does it cost to have it professionally applied?
#312 of 2735 tigrhwk
Jul 02, 2003 (10:28 am)
With the engine off, try to spin the engine driven fan; it shouldn't rotate more than 1/2 turn. Next turn the key to the "Run" position without starting the car. Turn on the A/C by pushing the "Snowflake" button. The electric fan should start running. Does the car overheat with the A/C on? How about coolant level-is the coolant up to the "KALT" mark when the engine is cold(under 90F)? One other possibility is that the cooling system was not bled properly after the t-stat replacement(BTW, the dealer should have also replaced the plastic t-stat housing-BMW calls for its replacement whenever the car overheats).
#313 of 2735 Engine overheating--tigrhwk
Jul 02, 2003 (12:46 pm)
Thanks for the insights, div2. The overheating problem occurs at low speed whether the air is on or not. Wouldn't that point to the engine-driven fan since the front fan does come on with the air conditioning and helps cool it down. FYI, in a subsequent conversation, the dealer surmised that it COULD be the fan clutch (whatever that is) and he will look at that tomorrow. Unfortunately, we do not feel cmnfortable driving the car as is and have made alternative travel arrangements.
#314 of 2735 3M Scotchcal
Jul 02, 2003 (2:57 pm)
Yes, I think the kits would be even more difficult to see on a black car. Mine's Sterling Grey and you have to be at a certain angle to see the font end kit at all. The trailing edge is the most visible part.
Not sure about installation cost. I was looking at it more as a project (ok, I might have a slightly warped sense of what constitutes recreation), so didn't look into that.
#315 of 2735 Cost of Scotchcal
Jul 02, 2003 (7:43 pm)
After two days of research, the installed price for the hood, bumper, front spoiler, and mirrors on a 540 with sp is $400-500. Most will throw in the lower door rocker panel (keeps that area free from entry/exit scratches)for free with their extra material they have on hand. Lights/fog lights are about $60. Of course that is not through the dealer. It's best to do your research for your area and try to find the guy the dealer uses. It is a very time consuming project and most dealers sum-contract it out. The experience level varies. Most have been doing it less than two years but all seem well trained. There are about three to four companies that design and cut out the product. All use the 3m product and application process. Their technique at fitting it to your car is what varies. Beware, I've read e-mail testimonials where this process is costing near $800 on the west coast. I plan on getting more written estimates tomorrow and will share the info. Hope this helps