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#21 of 145 Hi autoknologist - Glad to see you finally got your Kia Rio Wagon! by pocahontas Aug 29, 2001 (7:40 pm)
Congratulations! And thanks for sharing all the details. Btw, I believe you're the first actual owner that's posted in this discussion. I think we'll be seeing more owners here very soon. We look forward to hearing more about your ownership experience, so please keep us posted. Pocahontas Host Hatchbacks / Station Wagons / Women's Auto Center Boards
#22 of 145 Saw one... by cjaccetta Sep 01, 2001 (6:50 pm)
...in Canada. Just got back from a seven day trip to Montreal and Quebec City where I saw several Kia Rio wagons. They looked cool but were smaller than I thought. They reminded me of Peanut M&Ms candies (I mean that in a good way). That wagon seems ideally suited to urban driving. I still haven't seen one stateside yet.   The Rio Wagon is near the top of my list as a second car (along with the Echo - which seems to be the official Car of Quebec Province).   autoknologist - if I may ask, what did you pay for yours? I'm very curious but I will certainly understand if you don't wish to share. Good luck with you new car!
#23 of 145 to Cjaccetta by autoknologist Sep 04, 2001 (11:44 am)
No I have no problem telling you what I paid. $13500 out the door. So far, So good. On my first 2 measured tanks of gas, I got 32.6 and 33.0 mpg. Not to bad for a car that is not really broken in yet. I have been pleasantly surprised by the performance of the car so far. I have to pull a long grade of about 6-8 miles where the elevation goes from goes from 1900 ft to 3250 ft. So it is a long, steady climb. The RIO pulls it with no problem and I do not have to down shift even with A/C on!. I have had many cars that could not do this. One small criticism I do have is the small and fairly useless slide out cup holders. At least useless in the manual model. When you shift through the gears, if you have a drink in the holder bigger than a soda can, you hit it with your hand and the shifter. Other than that, I haven't found anything else to really complain about. Again, I have had a Toyota Echo. It was a good car. However, it was more money (and there has been price increases since I bought mine!), did not have the same features as the Rio and was not nearly as comfortable to drive (at least for me). Particular annoying was the Echo's tendency to be easily blown around by the wind. Due to its tall, boxy design and light weight, if there is a small cross wind, you will feel it as the car has to be constantly corrected to keep it going in a straight line. (Hoever,I do live in a windy area). Surprisingly, the RIO is barely affected by cross winds. Why is this? Not sure, really. But I believe it is because of the shape of the wagon(which are inherently more aerodynamic) and its lower profile. Nice surprise for me though. Good luck on whatever car you choose. I look forward to hearing what you picked and how you like it.
#24 of 145 Autoknologist it's no mistake your Rio Cinco by iluvmysephia1 Sep 05, 2001 (9:58 pm)
takes the winds better than the Toyota Echo. It's a better-made car. Don't tell Clodsumer Retorts, they'll tell you it HAS TO BE A HONDA OR TOYOTA OR IT'S NO GOOD!!! I can't believe the nonsense sold for money we're dealt in this country. People buy it, too! I'm FIRMLY CONVINCED that Kia and Hyundai are our #1 choice for cars in America. Bar none.
#25 of 145 Nonsense - iluvsephia by dreamwind Sep 09, 2001 (8:51 pm)
What you are saying are not facts. They are opinions. The fact is that Korean cars are still lagging a bit behind, but they have made such a fast improvement that I will not be surprised if Hyundai or Kia for that matter surpasses Honda and Toyota someday.
#26 of 145 Test Drive by rickroz Sep 10, 2001 (5:56 pm)
I just test drove the Rio wagon this afternoon and here are a few observations. The seats are very comfortable,a little on the firm side, but not VW firm. The manual adjustments work very well to get the right settings. I didn't care for the material on the inside of the doors. It was much too coarse, one step above burlap,and seemed too thin, but probably durable.   Inside the hatch there is just enough room for my 90lb dog. There is a nice pullover piece to hide your cargo.   I was impressed with the ride. The suspension was just right for this car, on a scale of 1 to 10 (ten being very firm) it was about a 4.5. The steering was light and the car went where it was pointed. Brakes were ok, about average.   The engine pulled pretty good until you got to 4k rpm, then it seemed to work a lot harder, it also got a lot noisier in the cabin. I had the a/c on the whole time with just myself and the salesman in the car.   Now the bad part...the shifter(by the way I drove to 5-speed). During the whole test drive I had no clue if the car was in gear or not when I was changing gears. It has a very vague and rubbery feel to it and it wasn't that easy to get in gear. Also you cannot shift with the armrest down, unless you do it with your wrist at a 90 degree angle. There is a fixed pedal to rest your left foot when your not shifting. It was in the perfect spot.    Overall the car seemed put together pretty well, No squeaks or rattles and nice paint. If it wasn't for the shifter I would seriously consider this car.    Does anyone know if cruise control is available??
#27 of 145 I'm a goin' for a test drive of the Rio Cinco........ by iluvmysephia1 Sep 11, 2001 (6:39 pm)
this week. There's a polar white one that has my name on it at a dealership only a couple miles from my work. Gotta run it by my other half first! I'll keep you posted-you know me! Replies to this message: ptorsiello (May 29, 2005 3:19 am)
#28 of 145 The Rio Cinco test drive is off........ by iluvmysephia1 Sep 18, 2001 (8:27 pm)
I decided to just run my '99 Sephia. We're at 72,500 miles and running strong. I like the Cinco enough, though to put it at the top of my "next new car" list along with Kia's new Spectra 4-door sedan, Kia Spectra hatchback and Kia Optima. The Rio Cinco would fit my 90-mile-a-day commute schedule very well so it's at the top of the list. Do post your thoughts on your Kia Rio Cinco's you've purchased! I'm very interested in this cool new offering from the greatest car maker in the world.
#29 of 145 while over at the Daewoo dealer(mooching a free cup of coffee) by fangio2 Sep 22, 2001 (8:18 pm)
I walked over to the KIA lot.saw the new Cinco.It is really a neat little wagon.It looks even better the the pic at the beginning of this board.
#30 of 145 fangio2-I looked at one tonight by iluvmysephia1 Sep 22, 2001 (10:35 pm)
after the salespeople had all left at my Kia dealer. A red Cinco has every option I'm looking for and was selling for around $13,000 give or take a whisker. Looked really sharp. Yep-it remains on my short list!

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