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#1191 of 2038 Re: Pricing [loum]
Aug 25, 2004 (7:37 pm)
The fact is that the 2005 cars are sitting at the docks waiting for delivery to dealers. Porsche held those so they can move more 2004 of the lots. If dealers add up the inventory of current 2004 and in waiting 2005's it is well over 60 day inventory. 60 days is considered a point where most manufactures give some incentives to move the vehicles. But Porsche thinking is that the sales may pickup due to winter and all. But my guess is due to rising rates and slower economy that may not materialize.
Also the other fact is Porsche is selling Cayenne’s at 10K to 15K premium which is hard to justify when you look at the quality and problems reported (pulling Porsche from 2nd to 2nd last in JD Edwards initial quality survey). SUV is a very competitive market, with fat margins, and there are many good offering from Lexus, BMW, Land Rover, Mercedes and even VW and Volvo, Infinity/Nissan etc. So unlike sports cars which are Porsche's forte, SUV is very different market. Porsche is slow to understand this; also the other factor is the dealerships. They need to change their mind set and service. To give you an example: My Lexus dealers service dept (http://www.woodfield-lexus.com/index.html) hours are:
Mon-Fri 7:00am - 6:00pm
Sat 9:00am - 5:00pm
While Porsche dealers (http://porsche-exchange.porschedealer.com/service/) service dept hours are:
Monday-Friday: 9:00 - 5:00
(Little ironic that this dealer also claims to be the largest in Midwest.)
Also the fact that dealers are already offering 5K (4% to 5% over invoice) or more off on custom ordered Cayenne S, and 1% to 2% over invoice on in stock 2004’s. I believe time is on the side of buyers at this point. Also not to mention these same dealers were gouging there customer 5K to 10K over MSRP just last year.
#1192 of 2038 Re: Pricing [hankypanky]
Aug 26, 2004 (6:29 am)
You are right on!
However, if you are interested on a 2004, I would try to negotiate the deal sooner rather than later. You may put a deposit on the car and tell the dealer the day you want the car delivered. I had my car on hold for about 6 weeks. Good luck!
#1193 of 2038 Re: Tire Wear @ 6300 miles [steebie]
Aug 26, 2004 (10:50 am)
Sorry, new to posts and haven't had chance to read through all msgs. Got 2 front Continentals replaced on my '04 S which Porsche paid for, along with alignment and balance. My service guy told me Porsche has been aware of alignment issues for quite some time. Must take it back in though because vibrations are back (within a couple hundred miles of service) there even after all that. I'm wondering if alignment issue is even correctable?
#1194 of 2038 Re: Pricing [loum]
Aug 27, 2004 (1:18 pm)
We are not seeing those kind of discounts in the South. I am interested in the details on your great deal!
#1195 of 2038 Re: Considering All Terrain tires for my Cayenne S [andcw1]
Aug 28, 2004 (9:08 am)
My 2005 Cayenne S is still on order, but I have been doing a lot of tire research and I zeroed in on the 235-60x18 XL Dunlop Grantrek WT M2 winter snow tire as the tire I intend to install and use all year. I had the Dunlop Grantrek tire on my Toyota Land Cruiser year round and loved them. They were not the WT M2 however. If you visit the tire rack and read the customer reviews, they say the WT M2 is effective in deep snow without chains. The WT M2 was infact designed for the Cayenne and is considered a OEM tire by Porsche, in fact you can even order them installed on Porsche rims from the Porsche parts dept. The all season Conti's are also sold at the tire rack and the reviews of end users indicate that they are not real good in deep snow, only light snow. I am planning on using mine all year, the only draw back is the size is 235-60x18 HR and so the diameter (odomoter will read correct) is ok but you loose .8" of tread width. Good luck! PS:The dunlops on my Land Cruiser lasted 50,000 miles and that is a heavy vehicle just like the Cayenne.
#1196 of 2038 Re: Pricing [odba]
Aug 30, 2004 (5:58 am)
Here are the details:
Cayenne S MSRP: 60,725, Invoice 53,064
I bought the car for $52,845
Black/black, moonroof, turbo wheels, dark wood package, dark wood steering wheel, front seat heater, floor mats, wheel hub covers colored crest, 18" collapsible spare, compass display.
I did not wanr to pay for Nav. I have no use for it. Good luck!
#1197 of 2038 Re: Cayenne S [carkook]
Aug 30, 2004 (2:47 pm)
I bought mine from Pacific Porsche in Torrance and paid $5000.00 below invoice. I'm sure it all depends on if you are buying one in stock or if they have to special order one to meet your specs. I bet if you are willing to be a little flexible on what features you are looking for, you just might get the deal you are looking for.
Let me know if you need the salesman's name.
#1198 of 2038 2005 Cay V6 pricing and specs
Aug 30, 2004 (6:35 pm)
I'm interested in buying a base 2005 Cay v6 and have three questions:
a) What is the invoice & MSRP for the V6 Auto. I've seen a prelim 2005 Cay V6 order guide -- it states $41,100 for the six-speed manual. Am looking for the auto (hard to imagine a manual on a 5000 lb SUV).
b) Any significant changes between the 04 and 05 models? Dealer indicates none.
c) Where can I learn more about the JDPower rankings that are quoted on this forum? Am concerned if Porsche has truly dropped in quality.
Lastly, the one dealer I spoke to gave me $2500 off MSRP on a base V6. Based on previous postings on this forum, I think I can do better...any comments?
#1199 of 2038 Re: Cayenne S [jfk663]
Aug 31, 2004 (12:32 am)
Please confirm that you paid $5,000 below invoice for a Cayenne. Please post the MSRP, invoice and price paid.
I had ruled the Cayenne out for "practical" reasons of wanting a bit larger of an SUV, but at $5,000 UNDER invoice, I would rethink my decision.
#1200 of 2038 Re: Pricing [loum]
Aug 31, 2004 (3:39 pm)
Hi, yes I live in MA and am interested in a 2004 S with the adjustable air suspension. Miller in NYC starts with a proposal that they will deal 2% over invoice on any in-stock car. My belief is more like 2% UNDER invoice and/or attractive financing. I am a cash buyer but would be happy to finance at an attractive rate.