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#31 of 1000
Steering by oscarz2
Nov 16, 2001 (5:25 am)
buzzard4,
I have a 99 GLS (4-99) and my steering is heavier than it used to be. Also, had intermediate shaft replaced and this tightened it up but didn't fix the heaviness.
 
About 3 months ago, I complained about heaviness and minor shudder to dealer. They checked it out and said GM is aware of problem but "no fix" at this time.
 
Later, I noticed a TSB on steering and took it in again (referring to the TSB). Mechanic said steering normal, no problems found. When I asked about the TSB, they said the TSB is for 3.8L Intrigues.
 
So basically we're stuck with power steering that doesn't give enough assist unless, a new pump or something does the trick. Dealer won't do anything because mechanic say's it's normal. Well yeah, it's a normal defect.
 
This is why I was inquiring about MagasteerII on the main board. If you get a pump or something else replaced and it helps, post it. That info will help others pursuade their dealers to do the same.
 
Since I'm still under warranty, they're not eager to solve problems. Sounds like your outside of warranty so I'm sure they'll find something.
#32 of 1000
Steering by buzzard4
Nov 16, 2001 (11:09 am)
Oscarz2,
 
Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, my problem is beyond heaviness, to the point that it takes 2 hands and a lot of elbow grease to pull into a parking spot.
 
I am out of warranty (55K miles), and the explanation for the first rack replacement was that the interior seals were going bad, restricting fluid flow at low pump speeds. Sounded logical, but still a pretty significant defect given the age of the car. The new rack did help briefly, but within a few weeks it was worse than before. I was very interested in your question about MagnasteerII, but from the responses, looks like that's a dead end. I'll let you know how I make out with the second rack replacement.
#33 of 1000
steering by moonshadow
Nov 23, 2001 (7:40 am)
Sounds like you have gone to manual.
 
If you lose it at low rpm , i would look at your pump. There isnt a lot clearance in the blades of the pump and if they are worn , then they lose the ability to build pressure until the rpm increase forces the fluid into the pressure hose.
 
Have you looked at the fluid for smell and colour. Dirty??
 
Also the magnetsteer II has an input shaft angle sensor which i believe is used with a computer to alter the applied pressure (either at the punp or the rack )depending on the angle of the rack input and the speed of the vechile. hence the variable power steering. When parking you get more assist the more you turn the wheel while at highway speeds you lose power which makes the car more directional and less prone to lateral drift, however, when you want to change lanes, the steering tends to be heavier than conventional steering. ie. no steering with your knee while you open a bag of chips.
 
There may also be a tie in with PCS??
 
THe story of pressure differential in the rack is correct for normal power steering, if you turn the wheel the valving will direct pressure to the direction you want to go. However, im not sure if the 99's had variable steering or Pcs. Something to consider.
 
If you go to (delphi .com)? site and look up the magnesteer pages and pour through them you will get a more technical discription of the operation of the rack and the magnesteer system.
 
#34 of 1000
Rough Idle by donsell
Nov 30, 2001 (8:13 am)
I just had my 2000 Intrigue in for the hard to start/rough idle problem.
 
The dealer diagnosed it as a faulty crankshaft sensor. He replaced it under warranty and it seems to have fixed the problem.
 
Anyone else had this solution?
#35 of 1000
Rough idle by oscarz2
Nov 30, 2001 (3:12 pm)
My 99 3.5 has had occasional rough-idle-upon start problem from day one. Only happens when engine is restarted after driving for a while and it's very sporadic. I can never duplicate the problem, it has a mind of it's own. Dealer always said no problem found.
 
Recently, the car died in a drive-thru (twice), but luckily it restarted and I got it to the dealer. They said, "faulty crankshaft sensor found" and they replaced it. That was about a month ago. Since then, I've had one rough start but it's colder outside now (maybe that's a factor?) and motor has not died.
#36 of 1000
HEADLIGHTS BLINK OFF & ON AT TIMES by wbhall
Nov 30, 2001 (8:06 pm)
My 2002 Intrigue headlights I've noticed will blink off and back on really fast every once in a while. This morning driving about 85 miles it blinked at least a dozen times. Has anyone else noticed this symptom?
#37 of 1000
Blinking headlights.... by jjpowell2
Dec 02, 2001 (5:50 am)
Our 2001 GL also has the flickering and we're on our 4th alternator. It's a distraction but have learned to live with it since it doesn't seem to effect the performance. It's one of those things that you can't get to happen when driven by the dealership unless they keep it overnight for a couple days. We won't bring it back in for repair until they are SURE they know the cause and produce an alternator that will correct it. Go back in the forum to about March/April for the TSBs and posts. Our other ghost is the driver's door that automatically locks from time to time while parked. That did happen at the dealership but he could only scratch his head.
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wbhall/ altenator/headlights by moonshadow
Dec 03, 2001 (8:20 am)
Sorry to hear your 2002 has the problem as well.
 
When I first went in they told me that they fixed the issue in 2000.
 
Nevertheless I am on my 3 rd altenator. The second one decreased the problem but did not get rid of it. Still waiting for the verdict on the third as it only has a few hundred klics.
 
Message 37 says they had four and now your 2002. I am thinking that they are still in the woods.
 
 Go to the sedan board for intrigues and take a boo at the posts I put there in the last couple of days if you want to get a clearer picture.
#39 of 1000
jjpowell2 & moonshadow by wbhall
Dec 03, 2001 (6:18 pm)
Not only do I have the flickering headlights, when I pulled into the garage Sunday night, my tilt wheel is now broke. It is stuck in the low position. I will be taking it to the dealership next Monday to have the lights and the tilt wheel fixed. I will let you know how I come out. I have to say, I have never heard of a tilt wheel breaking though. Not the lever but just the mechnism inside. BTW, I don't even have 3,000 miles on the car yet!! LOL
#40 of 1000
ABS Brake Pump Noise by wx5l
Dec 06, 2001 (9:41 am)
Is it normal on late model Intrigue's for the ABS pump to let out a deep groan when it first pumps up?
 
I brought it to the dealer and received the standard "that's normal".
 
Anyone else experience that groan at forst start-up?
 
Thanks,
Randy

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