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#1648 of 1709
1647 by sequoiabuyer
Oct 04, 2009 (4:32 pm)
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Most of us with Flex Fuel engines will never put ethanol in them if possible.
 
As it was explained to me, the flex-fuel engine is being made for political reasons so that they can continue to manufacture the Prius, etc. without any grief (or at least not as much).
 
Rest assured that the dealers are more than aware of the drawbacks you mentioned above. In fact, I understand that I really should avoid ethanol if possible as it burns "dirty" and really isn't ideal for any engine. Therefore, the reduced fuel economy is really irrelevant.
 
You are accurate about the Southeast and the flex-fuel option on the 4X4's.....
#1649 of 1709
Re: 1647 [sequoiabuyer] by 774
Oct 05, 2009 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: sequoiabuyer (Oct 04, 2009 4:32 pm)

I may be stubborn but I refused to be forced into buying a 4x4 Sequoia with a flex fuel engine. The engine has to be modified with larger fuel injectors and a larger fuel pump to deliver more fuel when E-85 is used. The gaskets that come into contact with the E-85 fuel also have to be different along with the fuel lines. I would also assume the computer system to regulate the amount of fuel being used has to recognize the mixture of ethanol in the fuel. The entire system is made more complicated to use a crap fuel that is hard to find that I would never use. The old saying of keeping it simple does not apply here. The more complicated something is the better chance something will malfunction. I do not want to take a chance on this modified engine to make the government happy.
 
The cost of this vehcile is high and as a customer paying the bill put the engine I want in the vehicle. I always thought Toyota was being forced into this by the government. I like the Toyota product and have bought a 4x4 Sequoia outside the southeast region just to get the engine I want.
#1650 of 1709
Food for thought: September Numbers by mjohnr99
Oct 05, 2009 (8:34 am)
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Because formatting gets lost, here is how you read Sequoia for example:
 
SEQUOIA 1,150 2,030 -45.6 11,752 24,592 -52.0
 
September 2009 sales = 1,150, versus 2,030 in September 2008, for a decline of 45.6%; calendar year to date sales = 11,752, versus 24,592 in 2008 period, for a decline of 52%.
 
Once you get format, then you can compare to other cars and SUVs.
 
* * * * *
 
TOYOTA RETAIL SALES
                             (INCLUDES FLEET & HAWAII)
                                  September, 2009
 
                           -----CURRENT MONTH----- --CALENDAR YEAR TO DATE--
                                            DSR % DSR %
                              2009 2008 CHG 2009 2008 CHG
                              ---- ---- --- ---- ---- ---
 
    YARIS 1,907 5,721 -68.0 50,785 88,495 -42.4
    COROLLA 20,741 21,316 -6.6 215,038 279,685 -22.8
    CAMRY 25,745 29,486 -16.2 264,357 355,562 -25.3
    VENZA 4,738 0 N/A 39,416 0 N/A
    AVALON 1,939 3,404 -45.3 19,878 34,309 -41.8
    PRIUS 10,984 10,873 -3.0 104,794 130,561 -19.4
    SCION xA 0 0 N/A 3 39 -92.3
    SCION xB 1,539 3,038 -51.4 20,531 38,671 -46.7
    SCION tC 1,232 2,679 -55.9 15,028 35,680 -57.7
    SCION xD 912 2,395 -63.4 11,686 23,369 -49.8
    TOTAL TOYOTA DIV.
     PASS. CAR 69,737 78,912 -15.2 741,518 986,372 -24.5
    ----------------- ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
    ES 3,046 4,042 -27.7 33,431 50,642 -33.7
    HS 1,242 0 N/A 1,785 0 N/A
    LS 777 1,238 -39.7 7,388 16,030 -53.7
    SC 19 129 -85.9 595 1,689 -64.6
    GS 501 977 -50.8 5,277 13,019 -59.3
    IS 3,346 3,044 5.5 27,911 40,372 -30.6
    TOTAL LEXUS PASS. CAR 8,931 9,430 -9.1 76,387 121,752 -37.0
    --------------------- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------- -----
    TOTAL TOYOTA PASS. CAR 78,668 88,342 -14.5 817,905 1,108,124 -25.9
    ---------------------- ------ ------ ----- ------- --------- -----
    SIENNA 6,442 9,647 -35.9 59,772 94,887 -36.7
    RAV4 10,398 10,305 -3.1 106,863 106,738 0.6
    FJ CRUISER 413 1,571 -74.8 8,381 21,696 -61.2
    4RUNNER 666 2,963 -78.4 13,127 37,306 -64.7
    HIGHLANDER 5,216 5,729 -12.6 61,484 81,951 -24.6
    LAND CRUISER 233 186 20.3 1,747 3,203 -45.2
    SEQUOIA 1,150 2,030 -45.6 11,752 24,592 -52.0
    TOTAL SUV 18,076 22,784 -23.8 203,354 275,486 -25.9
    --------- ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
    4X2 TACOMA 3,567 4,904 -30.2 42,739 65,773 -34.7
    4X4 TACOMA 3,946 4,272 -11.3 43,034 51,542 -16.1
    TOTAL TACOMA 7,513 9,176 -21.4 85,773 117,315 -26.6
    TUNDRA 6,308 7,696 -21.3 56,599 115,026 -50.6
    TOTAL PICKUP 13,821 16,872 -21.4 142,372 232,341 -38.5
    TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. LT
     TRUCK 38,339 49,303 -25.3 405,498 602,714 -32.4
    LX 307 647 -54.4 2,513 6,416 -60.7
    GX 473 1,329 -65.8 5,183 12,832 -59.4
    RX 8,228 4,639 70.3 65,325 63,219 3.8
    TOTAL LEXUS LIGHT
     TRUCK 9,008 6,615 30.7 73,021 82,467 -11.1
    ----------------- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ -----
    TOTAL TOYOTA LIGHT
     TRUCK 47,347 55,918 -18.7 478,519 685,181 -29.9
    ------------------ ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
    TOTAL TOYOTA DIV. 108,076 128,215 -19.1 1,147,016 1,589,086 -27.5
    TOTAL LEXUS 17,939 16,045 7.3 149,408 204,219 -26.5
    ----------- ------ ------ --- ------- ------- -----
    TOTAL TOYOTA 126,015 144,260 -16.1 1,296,424 1,793,305 -27.4
    MEMO:
    DOM. COROLLA 20,430 16,492 18.9 184,407 198,790 -6.8
    DOM. CAMRY 25,384 29,119 -16.3 255,239 349,000 -26.5
    DOM. RAV4 4,656 0 N/A 31,155 0 N/A
    DOM. PICKUP 13,821 16,872 -21.4 142,372 232,339 -38.5
    DOM. RX 5,631 3,685 46.7 43,612 46,033 -4.8
 
    SELLING DAYS 25 24 229 230
    ------------ -- -- --- ---
 
    TOYOTA DIV. IMPORT CAR 17,246 29,897 -44.6 242,578 404,273 -39.7
    LEXUS IMPORT CAR 8,931 9,430 -9.1 76,387 121,752 -37.0
    TOYOTA DIV NA BUILT
     CARS 52,491 49,015 2.8 498,940 582,099 -13.9
    TOTAL TOYOTA CARS 78,668 88,342 -14.5 817,905 1,108,124 -25.9
 
    TOYOTA DIV. IMPORT LT
     TRUCK 12,270 20,754 -43.2 160,447 250,894 -35.8
    LEXUS IMPORT LT TRUCK 3,377 2,930 10.6 29,409 36,434 -18.9
    TOYOTA DIV NA BUILT
     LT TRUCK 26,069 28,549 -12.3 245,051 351,820 -30.0
    LEXUS NA BUILT LT
     TRUCK 5,631 3,685 46.7 43,612 46,033 -4.8
    TOTAL TOYOTA LT TRUCK 47,347 55,918 -18.7 478,519 685,181 -29.9
    --------------------- ------ ------ ----- ------- ------- -----
 
    SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES 26,671 27,828 -8.0 267,994 336,257 -20.0
       Memo: Lexus Sport
        Utility 9,008 6,615 30.7 73,021 82,467 -11.1
 
    SMALL VANS 6,442 9,647 -35.9 59,772 94,887 -36.7
    PICKUPS 13,821 16,872 -21.4 142,372 232,341 -38.5
 
    ----------------------
    * NORTH AMERICAN BUILT
     VEHICLES
    COROLLA 20,430 16,492 18.9 184,407 198,790 -6.8
    CAMRY 25,384 29,119 -16.3 255,239 349,000 -26.5
    VENZA 4,738 0 N/A 39,416 0 N/A
    AVALON 1,939 3,404 -45.3 19,878 34,309 -41.8
    SIENNA
#1651 of 1709
Follow-up by mjohnr99
Oct 05, 2009 (9:02 am)
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If you look up August and July sales #s on Sequoia, they were very bad and in the -70% range (where the 4Runner has been stuck for 3 months), so this September's -46% percentage is an improvement. Must be evidence of some pent-up demand given no 2009 model available and long wait for the 2010s that were finally widely available on the lots in September.
 
Again, I want to see what happens in October, and whether any demand for Sequoias (given its unusual situation with no 2009 model) improves, or if it starts to decline again back towards the 4Runner.
#1652 of 1709
Rebates on Sequoia by jac1304
Oct 09, 2009 (9:22 pm)
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Looks like October doesn't have any rebates? Anyone have any thoughts if they are going to happen in future or if production is increasing?
#1653 of 1709
Re: Rebates on Sequoia [jac1304] by 774
Oct 10, 2009 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: jac1304 (Oct 09, 2009 9:22 pm)

I read on the internet that Toyota is planing to spend one billion in the fourth quarter to boost sales. Unknown on which models this might apply but incentives will be offered in addition to helping the dealers to move inventory in other promotional activites.
#1654 of 1709
2010 Pricing by eagleeye3
Oct 12, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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A friend of mine just purchased a 2010 2WD Limited w/ Navigation and DVD Entertainment for $4K under MSRP in the San Diego area (KM Toyota). I believe MSRP was $53K and he paid $48.8. Slate with graphite interior. Truck was on the lot. Not a demo - basically no miles on it. I was going to wait till Xmas to get mine - but I'm not sure it's worth waiting now.
#1655 of 1709
What is the best price for Sequoia 2010 Limited by shyboy
Oct 14, 2009 (6:15 am)
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I am on 22172 zipcode, and dealer quoted me $49488.73
 
I know this is not a very good price. but can someone please suggest what is the best price I get get for this model?
 
thanks,
#1656 of 1709
Re: What is the best price for Sequoia 2010 Limited [shyboy] by 774
Oct 14, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: shyboy (Oct 14, 2009 6:15 am)

Go to over stock .com cars and get a price on the vehicle you want. Look at TRUE CARS . COM. I just bought a Sequoia for $ 732.00 over invoice or 3198 off sticker. I had two dealers offering the same deal. The best I could do with out this site was about 800 higher for the same vehicle. The site helps to eliminate dealers who are not willing to sell at a great price as it is a buyers market.
 
A 2wd limited no options listed for 45,624 and a 4 wd drive limited no options listed for 48,986 in your zip code on over stock .com cars
#1657 of 1709
Re: What is the best price for Sequoia 2010 Limited [774] by manavi
Oct 18, 2009 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: 774 (Oct 14, 2009 9:16 am)

I never thought of paying $700 over invoice as being a buyer's market. Wouldn't a buyer's market usually mean paying under invoice and being wooed with all kinds of incentives from the dealers?
 
If a buyer's market gets you $3000 off sticker, what do you call the market where people were getting $10,000 off sticker?
 
I say wait.

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