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Replying to: mark198 (Jun 28, 2009 4:55 pm)  Good Luck to all. |
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Replying to: mjohnr99 (Sep 30, 2009 5:47 am) |
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Replying to: mjohnr99 (Sep 30, 2009 5:47 am)
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Replying to: 774 (Oct 01, 2009 5:45 am) I love my 2010, but am really thankful for the Sonar and backup camera in my world of tight parking spaces and small children.
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Replying to: sequoiabuyer (Oct 01, 2009 7:21 am) Nissan/Infiniti had the same problem the first year the Titan came out. The solution for them was to replace the brake pads three times before they would upgrade the rotors. I will pay a little more for a Sequoia but in the long run be ahead just because Toyota stands behind their product better than the competition. |
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Replying to: mjohnr99 (Sep 30, 2009 5:47 am) The internet had an article stating that Toyota will be launching a billion dollar (their biggest ever) discount and incentive program to boost sales during the fourth quarter. I'm hoping that generates something for the '10 Sequoia. |
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Replying to: bobd80016 (Oct 01, 2009 5:17 pm) Good stuff. Anyway, back in posts starting in the 1550s, I think I mentioned the discounts I was seeing on '08 Platinums this past summer. For example, one dealer in May with a vehicle MSRP of $58,155, started negotiations with an internet price of $49,955. I offered $43,616, but then when I realized he probably would only knock 1 or 2K more off, I decided to wait for the '10s. Been a long wait . . . in the meantime, had the opportunity to learn about other vehicles a bit. Although I know I can pick up a '10 for about $3K off these days, I am still giving it a couple months minimum. if I can make an extra 1K a month (in form of a discounted price) simply by waiting 2 months, then that $2K covers a lot of maintenance over the years ahead on it. It's not like we can't afford the thing, but rather it is my Scottish roots that got me where I am today, debt-free and able to pay cash for the truck. Waiting also forces me to constantly assess my opportunity costs. I totally agree with the poster above about the positives on the Sequoia over the Infiniti (especially appearance), but waiting this long has already potentially benefited me by forcing me to discover those other opportunities. I should say that I was very surprised to see the deals on the Infiniti, and that is why I have been focusing on it. I know many have lost faith in Mr. Stock Market, but if I can save even $8K between the two vehicles, then that little voice in me tells me to pay attention. $8K at 10% return over 10 years is about $20K towards my next vehicle. When the new '03 4Runner came out at end of '02 and was selling at MSRP (38K) with no deals, then I forced myself to look at the '03 Pathfinder. Long story short, I picked up the loaded LE Pathfinder for $30K at the end of 2002, and then I invested the $8K. We actually turned that $8K into over $31K and then remodeled part of our house in '07 with it. YES, I always would have loved to have that 4Runner, but that desire was easily more emotional than anything, as the Pathfinder has done everything I needed (I was really surprised by that), and now my wife actually drives it with small kids beating it up. So, in the end, the savings and subsequent investment was a good lesson learned and it's what is driving this now. There is no guarantee that I could turn 8K savings into 20 or 30K again, but at least I have the shot at it. Buying the Sequoia straight out, without at least considering other choices, means I have no possibility of ending up with 20 or 30K in 10 years. Anyway, I know this is not a personal finance board, but just wanted to give some food for thought. Most of my friends never put so much time/thought into this stuff, but then again, I am the "statistical outlier" of the group. I will post what sort of prices I am seeing in mid-atlantic come November. I am willing to pay a premium for the Sequoia given a lot of things it has over the Infiniti, but right now the spread is too great. Fingers crossed that that will soon change. Good luck to all.
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Replying to: mjohnr99 (Oct 02, 2009 9:25 am) Tried several dealers but couldn't get any to beat or match. Actually, they insisted that something would be added, dealer fee etc. No such thing. Only TTT. Communictaed entirely by email until the deal was done. Not too difficult. Deals will likely get better but they aren't going to give the cars away. For those not paying cash, Bank of America is offering fantastic rates on auto loans. I secured 4.2% APR for 60 months. At this rate, depending on your situation, it may or may not make sense paying cash.
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Replying to: flatout18 (Oct 03, 2009 4:11 am) A 4x4 platinium model list for 59,855 and you can get 3,932 off msrp mid- atlantic region and 5,136 southeast region. The draw back to the south east region is you can only get a flex fuel engine on the 4x4 models. I see no advantage in a flex fuel engine. The mileage is at least 20% worse and perhaps 30% worse, the fuel is hard to find. The fuel delivery system is made more complicated on the 5.7 liter engine to use a fuel that is scarce at best. E 85 causes a water problem in the fuel line and gas tank, is tough on metal, and costs more to produce than gasoline. The government pays oil companies about 51 cents a gallon to make the crap so it sells about 24 cents less than a gallon of gasoline. The draw back is you have to use more of it to go the same distance as gasoline so it ends up costing a lot more. |
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Most of us with Flex Fuel engines will never put ethanol in them if possible. As it was explained to me, the flex-fuel engine is being made for political reasons so that they can continue to manufacture the Prius, etc. without any grief (or at least not as much). Rest assured that the dealers are more than aware of the drawbacks you mentioned above. In fact, I understand that I really should avoid ethanol if possible as it burns "dirty" and really isn't ideal for any engine. Therefore, the reduced fuel economy is really irrelevant. You are accurate about the Southeast and the flex-fuel option on the 4X4's.....
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