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Acura RSX, Coupe, Hatchback
#894 of 2585 RSX vs. Tiburon
Jan 31, 2002 (9:38 pm)
Heck, the RSX has been cross-discussed with many other autos lately on Edmunds' Town Hall (WRX, Celica, C230, Eclipse come to mind). Maybe we should create an RSX vs. Tiburon board. In the meantime, I was just stating that the RSX, given that it is *not* as luxurious as the LS430s of the world (simple price check will prove that), should cost less.
I'm not saying the Tiburon (I was referring to the new 2003 model, not the el cheapo 2001 one) is the ideal sports coupe. It's simply a car that gives a lot for the money. Many of you are discounting the 2003 Tiburon GT simply because it's made by a Korean company. Fine. That's why Hyundai is countering with a 5 yr. bumper-to-bumper warranty (and 10 yr. power train that no one cares about). Acura only gives a 4 yr. b2b warr.
Once I test drive both cars (2003 Tiburon GT and 2002 RSX-S), I'll have a better idea. I was leaning more towards the RSX-S since it is an Acura and it has 200 HP. But when I saw the Tiburon in person at an auto show and checked out the specs at www.2003tiburon.com, I had second thoughts. Both of these cars, IMHO, now rank ahead of the Celica and Eclipse.
thel asked, "would Acura care about competing with the Tiburon, or any other Hyundai???" I don't work for a car company nor am I marketing person. That said, I bet that any product that can potentially steal marketshare would be a cause of concern. In other words, if the sports coupe/hatchback buying public is going to by Tiburons at the RSXs' expense, yes, Acura will care.
#895 of 2585 Cross Shopping
Jan 31, 2002 (9:57 pm)
I believe there will be people cross shopping RSX and Tiburon, and there will be many who would also consider Eclipse, Accord coupe, Solara, GTI, Jetta, Mini Cooper, ...
And unless Hyundai has really worked hard on Tiburon, I doubt it is going to attract the same buyers who like cars like RSX, Celica etc. Some who go by style, may.
Jan 31, 2002 (10:03 pm)
Many of you are discounting the 2003 Tiburon GT simply because it's made by a Korean company. Fine. That's why Hyundai is countering with a 5 yr. bumper-to-bumper warranty (and 10 yr. power train that no one cares about). Acura only gives a 4 yr. b2b warr.
There is some truth to it, but is there a reason for that belief? I think so. To add to that, is the 10 year powertrain warranty transferable? I don't think it is, and many people will have trouble with that, as well as hurting value of car after about 3 years of ownership. Unless somebody wants to own the car for next 10 years, used car market may not hold up, even if the company manages to. I'm not sure if long warranty may backfire companies like Hyundai/Kia/Isuzu (all offering 10 year 100K-120K power train warranty), and lately, Chrysler offering 7 year warranty. It is a risk for these companies, and it may be coming at a cost as well.
#897 of 2585 The 2002 Tiburon
Jan 31, 2002 (10:09 pm)
Lacks the visual appeal that the Celica and RSX buyers look for. The Celica represents the extreme-design car, while the RSX has that typical Acura palatable blandness, which is also unique - it hardly looks like a 300M in my eyes.
The Tiburon? A little VW here, a little Porsche there, a bit of Ferrari...nothing to really call its own. I think the pros refer to this as "cookie cutting" design.
#898 of 2585 rsx type s vs wrx vs prelude
Feb 01, 2002 (4:30 am)
It comes down to a matter of priorities and preferences. All three cars are superb. I gave the nod to the type S because of the luxury touches not found in the others, and especially because of the better build quality compared to the WRX. The WRX was a blast to drive, but the shifter was a little too vague and the interior materials put me off. If power delivery to all wheels is important to you, then this is the one.
But I do disagree with most posts describing the type S as ugly. Again, this is subjective, but I find it to be clean and subtle with the ghost of the prior integra in certain design details very appealing. Here are a few quick thoughts and impressions about all the cars I researched and drove before making the decision:
C-Coupe- Bizarre overall proportions, but some nice details. No headroom, and I'm only 5'9". Syrupy steering with slower responses than the true athletes of this group. OK shifter. Nice low end torque, but engine does not provide as visceral a thrill as others. Expensive when optioned up.
3 Series- Great car. Enough said, but too expensive.
WRX- fun, fun and more fun. I don't like the looks at all, and the interior says plain cheap. Little turbo lag, shifter better than C, not as good as type S. Amazing power above 3000rpm. If you don't mind the details, you can't go wrong with this one.
Celica - Um, style-wise, will date very poorly. Cramped interior with surprisingly lousy shifter. Engine response ok, but peakier and buzzier than others. Uninspired interior.
Prelude - Wow, felt like 1989 inside this car. Not a bad thing, but I was looking for something a little more today than yesterday. Dynamically, this car is great. Excellent engine, steering and shifter. With discounts, a great buy.
Jetta - Nice design. Great interior and material quality. 1.8T has more lag than WRX and shifter is clunky compared to the best in this group. Not for me.
type S- Great drivetrain. Best shifter of the group by far. Super seats and interior ergonomics. This is the one that just put a huge smile on my face. Hatchback makes it versatile. Gripes are few, but there should be an armrest and heated seats would be nice. Overall, you just can't go wrong with this one.
I can post impressions of the rest if anyone is interested.
#899 of 2585 Acura I believe denied the existance of the 4 door
Feb 01, 2002 (12:28 pm)
Integra for the first year it was out...it was only a coupe...
I would love a 4 door version of the RSX, and it is coming....
#900 of 2585 4 door
Feb 01, 2002 (12:32 pm)
"I would love a 4 door version of the RSX, and it is coming.... " -zigster38
Is that just wishful thinking based on the Integra experience, or do you know something we don't?
#901 of 2585 I too have a feeling...
Feb 01, 2002 (2:45 pm)
That they're going to come out with a 4-door model. Remember when they said the redesigned Civics would not have a hatchback in the lineup?
Feb 01, 2002 (3:11 pm)
The best thing about the '02 ITR in PacAsia and Australia is that it comes in many different colors, like silver, black, white and bunch of others. I hope we get all that here and won't have to resort to a yellow one or just 2 colors like before. Although the style of the current RSX-S doesn't do anything for me, I wouldn't mind owning a 2600lb 220hp car with race bred handling and less amenities. A/C is the only thing I want.
Besides, it looks much better with the side skirts and underspoilers.
Feb 03, 2002 (3:28 am)
Hi. I'm thinking about buying a Honda Civic EX. Now I'm also thinking about checking out an Acura RSX. How's the room inside for tall individuals (i'm 6'1")? Is it about the same as the Civic? Are the seats larger then the civic? I was thinking about replacing the seats in the Civic if I go that route. How much are you paying for your insurance? Will it be expensive to replace parts for this car because of the Acura label or will it be about average? One last question. How is the visbility inside? Thanks for help.