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Acura RSX, Coupe, Hatchback
#659 of 2585 Before you all yell at me
Nov 28, 2001 (9:33 pm)
I'm doing this for the benefit of our new RSX board readers and participants. A while ago (message #508 posted on Oct. 11, 2001) I complained about how the sketch of the RSX was so much sexier than the vehicle Acura sells today. I had posted pictures as evidence, but since that time, I've lost use of that server. I recently uploaded the pictures on another account and will repost them here. Again, this is for the benefit of our new members who might be checking the previous comments and cannot see those pictures. However, as to not clog up this page, I'll simply provide the links, and you can view the pictures yourself instead of me forcefeeding it to you. After clicking on the link, you might need to hit your browser's refresh/reload to bypass an error message. For your convenience, here's message #508:
... there is obviously a resemblance between the sketch of the Acura RSX and the actual vehicle that roams the roads today. However, I don't think they look very similar at all. IMHO, the bigwigs at Acura took the designers' sketch and made the engineers tone it down (made it more conservative looking). Since seeing is believing, I'll let this discussion board decide.
First, the tantalizing artist's rendition:
Now, the unexciting photo:
Maybe it's an optical illusion since the sketch has all that shiny glare. Regardless, I would have much preferred a production car looking like the drawing. Is anyone from Acura reading this board? Is it too late to change it for the 2003 model
#660 of 2585 I'm following the directions
Nov 29, 2001 (2:33 pm)
as best that I can. Slowly accelerate, brake REALLY REALLY early. It's fun to sit at the light, have folks stare, and then when the light goes green, have them 'blow my doors' so to speak.
It's kinda like in Back to the Future (2 or 3? can't remember).
Anyways, knock on wood ... the car's one week old and I'm halfway to the break-in.
Mostly cruising speed too, about 60mph in 6th most of the time.
Just a quick question before I go. Do I need to get the new 'program' for the OBD (or whatever it is)? How do I know if I need it? I got the car last Friday, 1 day after they called to tell me it had arrived.
#661 of 2585 RSX must be broken in carefully!!
Nov 29, 2001 (3:06 pm)
or the engine will go. All Acura dealers have received crucial instructions from Honda to urge all new RSX buyers to strictly follow break-in procedures. Any trips close to redline in the first 1,000 mi. will result in engine damage. My friend's friend that works at the dealership said that they were told on the phone by Honda engineers to ask customers not to exceed 5k RPMs the first 500mi. but to try not to alarm the customers, sort of hush-hush.. This is unusual for Honda or any car, but it seems they messed up somewhere on the design and made the motor NOT very fault tolerant during break-in period.
All you have to do is just accelerate slowly and don't go into the high RPMs for at about 1500k mi. After that gradually go up to higher REVs and don't do it in 1 day. Go to 6k at first. The next day 6500, then 7k, etc. Also don't forget to vary your engine speeds (RPMs) during break-in. This is just as important! don't leave it on cruise control! The best way to do this is to find a not so traveled country road or highway and in 4th gear go from 30 to 60-65mph. Then coast back down to 30mph. Then accelerate slowly again to 60-65mph. Honda engineer & race car driver Ken Woods told me back in '98 to do this at least 20 times all in one shot before the car reaches 200mi. After that he said you should still vary your RPMs but not as religiously as I described above. The above procedure can be dangerous. I was on the right lane on a 3 lane highway after I picked up my new GSR from the dealer. Cars would come up dangerously close as I deccelerated down to 30-35mph even though I had my emergency lights on!
Anway, RSXs, especially the Type-S seem to have a very low tolerance during break-in period. Drive your RSX like you used to drive when your grandma was in the car!
There 's another perfect reason why I hate buying cars 1st year out. My '01 Civic has a recall and a dozen TSB's already..
#663 of 2585 acura rsx type s oil consuption
Nov 30, 2001 (12:59 pm)
this is the car that is talked about in here before .I am mazda tech at dealer and my rsx has piston slap which results in oil consuption the tech at acura working on my car now has told me it measures in factory specs.This is a design flaw and hopefullly honda will make some mods to pistons to prevent this . This car was diven very sensibly at break in untill first oil change at 2500 miles .So if u got one watch the oil level closely there are more out there .maybe they will get it right next year . As for me i will not take this vehicle with a new engine and have already hired legal counsil.And as any high peformance car it takes time to work out the kinks to beware.
Nov 30, 2001 (1:08 pm)
a "piston slap"?
Nov 30, 2001 (3:20 pm)
I 'm curious too.. Are the pistons out of spec, slapping the cylinder walls?
#666 of 2585 Piston slap?
Nov 30, 2001 (8:46 pm)
I think we're all trying to decipher your post, Kane12, as it seems a bit scrambled. Are you saying that a technician at a Mazda dealer told you youhave piston slap? Are you certain that he is not just hearing the iVTEC kick in with the different sound from the second sets of cams? I really think that you should go to another Acura dealer for a second opinion or if you distrust all Acura dealers now maybe consider Toyota since the Celica also uses a variable valve timing set up; but not a Mazda dealership where the techs probably have no training at all on VTECs let alone iVTECs.
Nov 30, 2001 (10:00 pm)
you took apart the engine, had a Mazda Technician take dimensionals on the pistons (and whatever else) and they claimed that they are in spec? Where would you get these specs and tolerances?
I'm not disbelieving what you've said, I just find it rather difficult to obtain specs on a relatively new part that hasn't been in production for too long. Nevermind the fact that you got the dimensionals from another Manufacturer. Perhaps those specs were for Mazdas?
Best of luck to you in your lawsuit. Perhaps they'll publish what a "piston slap" is.
Sorry for being a smarta$$, it's just the way you've gone about it that causes me to reply in this way.
#668 of 2585 anyone like them?
Nov 30, 2001 (11:01 pm)
It seems there aren't many people who like the rsx, has anyone had a good experience so far? hopefully most people have more reasons not to like them other then an armrest, especially if you have a manual.