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#41 of 2579 himiler by ranald May 17, 2001 (4:14 pm)
About the Z28, my point exactly.   The Integra interior is very dated, but IMO the WRX is not much of an improvement. I didn't care for it when I was in the car, to me it looks really cheap. Again, IMO the RSX interior is attractively understated, almost elegant.   And no, I am not aware of Subaru being renowned for reliability, longetivity or build quality. In fact, from everything I've read and heard, and from the one Subaru in the family, compared to Honda or Toyota they are downright cheap and shoddy and require fairly frequent and extremely expensive repairs.
#42 of 2579 ranald by only1harry May 17, 2001 (6:01 pm)
Yeah, I read that too about the Subaru reliability, built quality and all that so I went to JD Powers & Associates to see how they rate the Subarus reliability and you 're pretty much right on the money. They don't come close to the Hondas, Acuras or Toyotas. Acura (TL/RL) is way up there with the Big boys, Lexus, Infinity, etc. The Integra is not too far behind. I think it was 20 or 30something out of 180 models. Subarus were in the middle or below! To my surprise VWs were way down there, almost last with the Chevys and the like!
#43 of 2579 ranald by himiler May 18, 2001 (3:11 pm)
Ok, so we've got different ptiorities when evaluating cars. Cool by me. The fact that I put less of an emphasis on interior/exterior styling and am more concerned with performance and function-over-form probably stems from the fact that I only keep my daily drivers for less than 3 years/250,000 miles. Even though I'm in the car 8-10 hours a day (certainly long enough to appreciate a more thoughtful interior design), for me it ultimately comes down to the driving experience. And a really comfortable seat.   I suppose that I should have qualified who in particular find Subarus rewarding to own: their owners. It's a case of one liking what one likes (enough to buy it.) No suprise there. I must impart, however, that my 2.5RS is proving to be more reliable than the '98 Civic DX hatch that it replaced. In less than one year, the Civic suffered a split along one of the seams of its plastic(!) radiator (causing a total coolant loss), a failed Honda CD player, many interior rattles & buzzes, and 3 interior trim pieces that broke in normal use. In 10 months of owning the Subaru, I have experienced ZERO problems.   Proof enough for me.
#44 of 2579 Interesting by ranald May 21, 2001 (1:51 pm)
only1harry: I never did check JD Power, but I read magazines, hang out on car sites, and listen to brother-in-law the Subaru driver. Subaru may not be on a par with Honda or Toyota, but they're no Chrysler. And I hear they're better than Mitsubishi.   himiler: You're right, of course it's all subjective. I guess it's too hard to resist the urge to butt in with "if you're sensible (i.e. you value the same things I do, heh) you should buy <blah>".
#45 of 2579 wow, by only1harry May 21, 2001 (7:19 pm)
I 'm surprised to hear that about your '98 Civic DX. My '97 DX has now 131k mi. and I haven't had a single problem. Have only replaced front brake pads and done 1 minor tune-up (my self) at 80k mi. That consisted of plugs, wires, distr. cap & rotor, air filter. Oh and of course the timing belt at 91k mi. & fresh cooland at the same time. The rear pads are still the factory ones as is everything else on the car! Plan to replace some more fluids like brake and Manual tranny fluid and will probaly replace the rotors very soon. This stuff is all maintenance and very minor in my opinion considering I drive the car hard, it's been through a lot of bad weather, and was in a major accident at 40k mi. where I drove (an 11 other ones) over a truck's axle in the middle of the highway and the car went airborne with air bags in my face and all. $5k worth of damage, comprised of mostly suspension, airbags, windshield, etc. The motor doesn't burn a drop of oil and sometimes I go 4,000mi. before changing it again. The factory battery is still in it. My GSR is not quiet up there but with 25k mi. on the odo and racing it religiously for 7 mos out of the year (real racing, not street racing) it hasn't presented any problems. It is a dedicated weekend race car now and just this weekend I destroyed a WRX which by the way was my 2nd one so far this season out of 2 that I 've encountered auto-x racing with me. Everyone at both racing events was also saying that there was way too much hype about this car and noone was impressed with it like when the Type-R came out or other cars.. It just didn't look good out there on the course. The WRX had way too much body roll, its tires were squealing like crazy and it just couldn't tackle the course with speed and agility and lost traction too easily. And don't believe the commercials you see on TV where they show the WRX going like 100mph through some country roads. That car is probably the Japanese version and most likely has race tires on and upgraded suspension. Come out to the local races and see your great WRX get humiliated by cars that cost less. Don't get me wrong. No doubt it's a fine car but it's not what people have pumped it up to be which is like a super car. It's not.
#46 of 2579 only1harry by himiler May 22, 2001 (12:11 pm)
Impressive driving on your part, I'm sure, but I'm not interested in racing a WRX--I'll be busy making money with mine (if I even buy one). Besides, at 3200lbs. the WRX needs to go on a major diet before it'll be competitive with hard-nosed club racers.   You might want to keep a watch out for the STi version, though, when it arrives in 2002.   Since this is the RSX forum, I thought somebody might be interested to learn that my local dealer says that they are "frustrated" by the lack of marketing support from Acura. He said that there has been significant interest in the car (due to auto mags), but he's only able to take phone numbers from potential buyers. Word-of-mouth on the car is positve, but people are surprised that there is no factory literature available yet, and none is expected until mid-June. In the meantime, he said that he's "concerned" about losing sales.   Bummer for Acura.
#47 of 2579 RSX no amrest by s852 May 22, 2001 (12:14 pm)
There is no center console armrest on the new RSX. I wonder if it will be available as a dealer-installed option? The lack of center armrest is going to turn off many buyers.
#48 of 2579 s852 by himiler May 22, 2001 (12:32 pm)
I also quized dealer re: armrest. He said he had no idea what accessories will be avail., because he has heard NOTHING from the factory.   Doesn't that just give you a warm feeling all over?
#49 of 2579 Likely Super-High Insurance Rates by s852 May 22, 2001 (4:51 pm)
http://www.msnbc.com/news/576902.asp
#50 of 2579 s852 by himiler May 23, 2001 (12:46 pm)
Thanks for the link, I heard this on the radio today. I'm not sure, however, that these higher rates will immediately carry over from the Integra. There aren't going to be many powertrain items from the RSX that will "drop in" on the previous generation Civic(s), now that the engine spins in the opposite direction. Also, the RSX wheels are 5-lug, which will make them somewhat less desirable to the rippers.   Of course, it'll only be a matter of time before the new Civic is the tuner's platform of choice, and then the RSX will be a greater target yet again.   TT my dealer again today. Acura is bringing all their sales/service people to a big RSX introduction in early June. I think he said it was going to be held in Texas. He just rec'd the announcement this AM. There are now some 1-page pamphlets at the dealers, but there's still far more info available on the Web.

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