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#61 of 3321 Coupe versus Hatchback by bill_1 Apr 23, 2001 (7:37 am)
The thing is that the Coupe version of the SI was the exception. In the previous generations the SI was the hatchback version (and the CRX and Del Sol). The hatchback is a bit lighter than the sedan version so it will also be a bit peppier and handle a bit better.
#62 of 3321 Very good post pere_ubu by sobers Apr 23, 2001 (8:49 am)
I agree that even Si is rated 160 & SVT as 170 SI would be faster & more responsive just bcos of better mated xmission. Fuel Economy of SVT will be a BIG JOKE. Si will have a very good fule economy. Simple question is if you are going to spend same money for SVT vs SI which one would you get ? Assuming both have the same performance (which is not the case, Si wil be better), my money would go to Si due to reliability/economy & overall value over many years. AND I would have to take it in 5 times in 6 months due to funny recalls.
#63 of 3321 Manual Xmission by sobers Apr 23, 2001 (8:53 am)
Hpw SVT is going to match the BEST manual xmission maker of the world i.e. Honda ??   The diff between Fort Manual & Honda manual will be interesting !! -   Now only of Honda gives better overdrive gear for comfortable crusing (which is possible with 2 litre engine) I guess revvs for 5th gear would be very low. Also SVT engine is not going to be revv-happy as si's. Honda is THE MASTER (with BMW/Frerrari) of highrev machines parts.   I hear that Si's engine is down-tuned version of S2000 ? I guess that leaves a very HIGH room for engine modfification of the order of 90-100 hp !!
#64 of 3321 power and manual tranny by qbrozen Apr 23, 2001 (11:20 am)
The SVT is going to have one more gear than the Si (the Si is a 5-spd, correct?). So i think the Ford 6-spd is going to help the performance a great deal. I'm pretty sure its going to be faster in a straight line than the Si, corners is a different story.   Talking about tuned down, Ford took that same SVT engine and made 304 horsepower!!   I'm not saying either one is better than the other. Just pointing out a couple of facts.
#65 of 3321 304 hp by ejonavin Apr 23, 2001 (7:55 pm)
How much can you get out of the S2000 if you turbo it?
#67 of 3321 by jk111 Apr 23, 2001 (10:53 pm)
from the looks of it, the focus svt will be cheaper than the si. I think honda will put the si within the 160hp range (cost, direct competition with RSx..), I just hope they bring civic R over here in US. The 2002 si looks pretty good in person imo, I like the on the dash shifter.
#68 of 3321 Focus SVT versus Si Manual Transmission by bill_1 Apr 24, 2001 (7:52 am)
Ford is using a Getrag 6 speed in the Focus SVT so I wouldn't be too quick to assume that the Honda manual transmission will better than than the SVTs. The main advantage the Si might have is that it will more freely rev, but if the Focus has an advantage in Torque it might not matter much. Right now, baring finding out something new about the Si, the Si will be the safe choice amongst the pocket rockets (In that it will be reliable and hold its value) but it will not be the most exciting (Focus SVT and the Sentra SE-R Spec V) nor even the most adult (The VW GTIs I think have that one pretty easy).
#69 of 3321 Another advantage... by isellhondas Apr 24, 2001 (8:31 am)
If history repeats itself, nothing holds resale value like a Honda. The SI's have been the best at this. Five years down the road a Ford will be worth VERY little!

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